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The above is the title for an article published by yahoo this week. Original Article, Archived Article

Article text:

Astrophysicist Sarafina Nance, who appears in Sports Illustrated Swimsuit, claps back at troll: ‘We don’t exist for consumption’

Tayler Adigun Tue, May 17, 2022, 3:19 PM·3 min read

Sports Illustrated Swim Search finalist and astrophysicist Sarafina Nance had a message for internet trolls after posing for the magazine's 2022 Swimsuit Issue in a yellow halter-neck bikini. On Monday, the Egyptian-American analog astronaut responded to a critic who called her modeling for the magazine demeaning.

“Fantastic for being an astrophysicist, but a swimsuit model?!!" the commenter wrote. "This is the problem that Marilyn Monroe faced that her audience only valued her for her body, not her brains... Imagine Madam Curie being a Playboy [centerfold]? Sorry, but it demean [sic] a woman with intelligence."

— mike little (@hadarachconsult) May 16, 2022

Nance had no time for that argument, insisting that women shouldn't be limited; she can model swimwear and study science.

"Your brand of ‘feminism’ isn’t real feminism if you’re dictating what a woman can do, look like and dream," Nance shot back. "Women aren’t objects. We don’t exist for conception. The point is that we can be everything — and anything — we want. Period."

— Sarafina Nance (@starstrickenSF) May 16, 2022

Nance also shared the interaction on her Instagram Story, where she noted that “this kind of comment is exactly why a photo shoot like this is important."

"Toppling misogynists one swimsuit at a time!!!” she added.

Nance is a 2022 finalist for the Sports IlIllustrated Swim Search, an annual casting call for aspiring and professional models to be featured in the publication. Other finalists include influential women such as Ashley Callingbull, the first Indigenous First Nations woman to be featured in the publication, and Gigi Robinson, the first Gen Z and chronically ill woman in the magazine.

i applied to @SI_Swimsuit to share my journey as a woman in STEM & show women breaking boundaries & defying stereotypes.

we shot 2 years after my double mastectomy.

the magazine drops Monday. until then, here’s my SPORTS ILLUSTRATED SWIM MODEL DEBUT!!!

— Sarafina Nance (@starstrickenSF) May 15, 2022

Last week Nance, who last year participated in HI-SEAS, a Mars simulation run by the International MoonBase Alliance (IMA), told her followers that she applied for the Swim Search to "share my journey as a woman in STEM and show women breaking boundaries and defying stereotypes."

She also noted that her shoot took place two years after she underwent a preventative double mastectomy after genetic testing revealed she was positive for the BRCA 2 genetic mutation, with an 87% lifetime risk of breast cancer. She was just 26 at the time.

Nance has been documenting her Sports Illustrated Swimsuit journey on TikTok.

“I wanted to show that women can pursue our dreams, defy stereotypes and be anything we want to be, no matter what,” she told Sports Illustrated Swimsuit.

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There is a lot to discuss here, including the content of the article, I’m interested in thoughts on that too. However, if you go to the original article link you’ll find yahoo has shut off the comments, they didn’t originally. It allowed comments and I counted a total of 2 of approximately 25 that did not make a comment on her weight. Most were predictably rude, including comments about “maybe she should remind herself that all food doesn’t need to be consumed either,” “not everyone who can wear a swimsuit should, I could see fat women in swimsuits at the beach anytime.”

I know yahoo is a cesspit. I’m also not a supporter of pretending that being obese is healthy, or that beauty (or lack of) says anything about any woman, it should be irrelevant, but I find myself continually shocked by the absolute lack of understanding about women's bodies. We are literally built to carry more fat than men. It’s why we survive famines more than they do. An extra 5 pounds on a woman is not only not unhealthy, it’s perfectly average. Maybe I’ve lost my mind but she looks supremely average in size to me. The weird obsession with women's weight is so unsettling.

I’d love to hear other thoughts, maybe I’m wrong about her size and I’m curious what people think of the article as well.

The above is the title for an article published by yahoo this week. [Original Article](https://news.yahoo.com/sarafina-nance-sports-illustrated-swimsuit-claps-back-misogynistic-troll-221900922.html), [Archived Article](https://archive.ph/CFXEL) Article text: #Astrophysicist Sarafina Nance, who appears in Sports Illustrated Swimsuit, claps back at troll: ‘We don’t exist for consumption’# *Tayler Adigun* *Tue, May 17, 2022, 3:19 PM·3 min read* *Sports Illustrated Swim Search finalist and astrophysicist Sarafina Nance had a message for internet trolls after posing for the magazine's 2022 Swimsuit Issue in a yellow halter-neck bikini. On Monday, the Egyptian-American analog astronaut responded to a critic who called her modeling for the magazine demeaning.* *“Fantastic for being an astrophysicist, but a swimsuit model?!!" the commenter wrote. "This is the problem that Marilyn Monroe faced that her audience only valued her for her body, not her brains... Imagine Madam Curie being a Playboy [centerfold]? Sorry, but it demean [sic] a woman with intelligence."* *— mike little (@hadarachconsult) May 16, 2022* *Nance had no time for that argument, insisting that women shouldn't be limited; she can model swimwear and study science.* *"Your brand of ‘feminism’ isn’t real feminism if you’re dictating what a woman can do, look like and dream," Nance shot back. "Women aren’t objects. We don’t exist for conception. The point is that we can be everything — and anything — we want. Period."* *— Sarafina Nance (@starstrickenSF) May 16, 2022* *Nance also shared the interaction on her Instagram Story, where she noted that “this kind of comment is exactly why a photo shoot like this is important."* *"Toppling misogynists one swimsuit at a time!!!” she added.* *Nance is a 2022 finalist for the Sports IlIllustrated Swim Search, an annual casting call for aspiring and professional models to be featured in the publication. Other finalists include influential women such as Ashley Callingbull, the first Indigenous First Nations woman to be featured in the publication, and Gigi Robinson, the first Gen Z and chronically ill woman in the magazine.* *i applied to @SI_Swimsuit to share my journey as a woman in STEM & show women breaking boundaries & defying stereotypes.* *we shot 2 years after my double mastectomy.* *the magazine drops Monday. until then, here’s my SPORTS ILLUSTRATED SWIM MODEL DEBUT!!!* *— Sarafina Nance (@starstrickenSF) May 15, 2022* *Last week Nance, who last year participated in HI-SEAS, a Mars simulation run by the International MoonBase Alliance (IMA), told her followers that she applied for the Swim Search to "share my journey as a woman in STEM and show women breaking boundaries and defying stereotypes."* *She also noted that her shoot took place two years after she underwent a preventative double mastectomy after genetic testing revealed she was positive for the BRCA 2 genetic mutation, with an 87% lifetime risk of breast cancer. She was just 26 at the time.* *Nance has been documenting her Sports Illustrated Swimsuit journey on TikTok.* *“I wanted to show that women can pursue our dreams, defy stereotypes and be anything we want to be, no matter what,” she told Sports Illustrated Swimsuit.* ————————————————— There is a lot to discuss here, including the content of the article, I’m interested in thoughts on that too. However, if you go to the original article link you’ll find yahoo has shut off the comments, they didn’t originally. It allowed comments and I counted a total of 2 of approximately 25 that did not make a comment on her weight. Most were predictably rude, including comments about “maybe she should remind herself that *all* food doesn’t need to be consumed either,” “not everyone who can wear a swimsuit *should,* I could see fat women in swimsuits at the beach anytime.” I know yahoo is a cesspit. I’m also not a supporter of pretending that being obese is healthy, or that beauty (or lack of) says anything about any woman, it should be irrelevant, but I find myself continually shocked by the absolute lack of understanding about women's bodies. We are literally *built* to carry more fat than men. It’s why we survive famines more than they do. An extra 5 pounds on a woman is not only not *unhealthy*, it’s perfectly average. Maybe I’ve lost my mind but she looks supremely average in size to me. The weird obsession with women's weight is so unsettling. I’d love to hear other thoughts, maybe I’m wrong about her size and I’m curious what people think of the article as well.

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Pretending to ~defy stereotypes~ when all she is doing is pandering to men and getting that sweet, sweet male validation. plz.

You can be super smart in some areas, and an absolute dumbass in others.

So, she's saying that women aren't there for men's "consumption," but she's posing in a swimsuit magazine, which is intended for male "consumption." She just seems like a total hypocrite for doing this, rather than refusing the offer to pose and drawing attention to it that way. You're not going to do away with the male gaze by feeding and encouraging it.

Yeah, I’m actually having a hard time refuting anything said by the commenter she responded to. I would change the last sentence to just read “it demeans women.” I wouldn’t have worded it the way he did tbh, it’s a bit more nuanced than that, but he’s not wrong about feminist icons in history. It’s really unfortunate that with everything she’s accomplished she sees being beautiful as a required accomplishment.

As for her turning it down, it’s a casting call, she applied. I agree though. The more women say “no,” the better. The name is literally “Sports Illustrated Swimsuit,” do you honestly think your real accomplishments will be the main feature?

When Megan Rapino, the great American soccer star agreed to model for the cover of Sports Illustrated, I was crushed. And, then when I learned that she, a lesbian, was a strong supporter of LGBTQ+ causes, I was crushed again.

It seems that our modern female role models constantly let us down.

Time to stick with Harriet Tubman, slave rescuer, scout in the U.S. army during the Civil War, suffragette, and strong supporter of women's rights.

Harriet, who "transitioned" in another way long ago, is now way beyond being capable of posing for Sports Illustrated or asserting that "Trans women are women," is my go-to role model now.

Hear hear. Unfortunately too true. There is Queen JKR though, long may she reign. Haha

Don’t know what she looks like. Don’t need to. Her position is ridiculous.

But… she sold her image for consumption. She may not exist for consumption but her image does

So she portrayed herself as an object and is upset that people point that out? She is worth more then her magazine cover. Her accomplishments are real and yet she completely sold herself short by making it about her body.I don't know the particulars of how the decision was made but it was a baffling one. Of course it was going to be taken that way, of course she'd get crucified, what world does she think she's living in? There is no grace for women, especially in these times.

But her reasoning and defense is such brain-dead libfem rhetoric it honestly makes me look at her side eye. If you wanted to go on the magazine then just say that, don't bring the bullshit empowerment angle here. Because it's not real.

The magazine itself is a fucking joke, yeah thanks so much for your ever expanding male jerk material. Fucking disgusting bullshit, what a message for little girls! Yes you too can be the top of your field and also be completely reduced to your body parts in a bikini! Much feminism.🥴

Yeah, I wish women who have so much to offer the world would not feel like they need to also offer an attractive appearance for males to enjoy. Neil Degrase Tyson is also an astrophysicist and he inspires people without taking off his clothes.

However, at least if women insist on doing photo shoots of this nature (in a male dominated magazine no less) they wouldn’t try to force it to be feminist. It’s not, and women can still decide if they want to do something like that if they want, but it’s not feminism. A woman wanting to do a thing does not make that thing feminist. I know when I was a young girl these kinds of things turned me off to feminism because I would think “oh, that’s not the kind of thing I would ever want to do, I guess feminism isn’t really my thing.” You’re not helping the cause by saying that everything women do that appeals to men is feminism

Neil Degrase Tyson is reportedly creepy towards women and believes TWAW, and yet he still inspires people.

🙄🙄🙄🙄

Sorry girl, adults who pose for SI, knowing that it is used as fap material, don't get to cry over it later and be taken seriously.

I think it's cool she's not having to partially remove her swim bottom like much of the other SI swim pics. I also think she looks average. But most si swim models are extremely thin so the standards are bunk.

I have mixed feelings about this. I must say I'm sick of men saying women shouldn't do things even if it's something like this because it's still men telling women what to do and thinking it's culturally correct. But I wouldn't personally pose for SI either

[–] BJ581 [OP] 4 points Edited

I always find that a hard line to walk as well. Existing in a female body is not and should not be a sexual act. A woman at a beach with a bare chest, a woman in any kind of swimsuit or other outfit, should not be a sexual act. The fact that men have sexualized it is a problem. The question comes to, how do you oppose that? By doing the thing or not doing it? It’s a hard one to answer.

At the end of the day SI is a male dominated magazine put out for males, so it’s not even like she’s inspiring a love for science in young girls. The people buying the magazine will be looking at her body, not her accomplishments. Whether or not we like it, female bodies are sexualized, and every comment on that article was doing just that, they weren’t talking about how she developed a love of science, or ways to inspire other young girls, they were making judgements about her body. I wouldn’t pose for SI either, but if I was going to do something like that, I think I would try to keep feminism out of it. Every action doesn’t need to be feminist and you don’t need to water down feminism just because you want to do a thing.

As a side note, the magazine is sports, so I don’t see how it could relate to her accomplishments in any way because she’s not an athlete. I’m not really sure how it could be argued that she was trying to reach any real audience that might have an interest in science. It’s not for young girls, it’s not for scientific achievement or women's achievements. It is marketed to people who are male and interested in sports. Seems an odd choice. If she had posed for the cover of cosmo it would at least be reaching a mainly female audience I suppose.

I'm so old I can actually remember 4 minutes ago, when most people hearing that a young Woman had a double mastectomy used to assume she'd had bc (and/or was BRCA+ so known high risk for bc).

Now, most people probably imagine... um, something else. 🥵