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TLDR: I just want theoretical quick responses for the popular anti-feminist rhetorics.

This person hates me ATM and he always find a way to twist my words every time I barely say a word. I've noticed that he lately a lot of anti feminist rhetorics coming from his mouth. He say a lot of stuff I can easily disprove, but I really don't want to argue with him and keep communication to a minimum.

One o f the most annoying rhetorics is "women want equality, therefore they should play along men's rule, that was created by men...", "feminism ruins women", "feminists don't have anything fight for anymore, therefore, they are just crazy" I don't remember everything he said, maybe you can include a popular rhetoric you know.

Edit:He also defends the sexualization of flight attendants.

TLDR: I just want theoretical quick responses for the popular anti-feminist rhetorics. This person hates me ATM and he always find a way to twist my words every time I barely say a word. I've noticed that he lately a lot of anti feminist rhetorics coming from his mouth. He say a lot of stuff I can easily disprove, but I really don't want to argue with him and keep communication to a minimum. One o f the most annoying rhetorics is "women want equality, therefore they should play along men's rule, that was created by men...", "feminism ruins women", "feminists don't have anything fight for anymore, therefore, they are just crazy" I don't remember everything he said, maybe you can include a popular rhetoric you know. Edit:He also defends the sexualization of flight attendants.

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Is there any reason you’re keeping this waste of space in your social circle? Is he a relative? Because my advice would be different depending.

I wouldn’t be speaking to him. Arguing with men is a waste of time. If you HAVE to interact with him just pretend-agree with his idiocy and go do whatever you were gonna do anyway. And save your actual brain for other women.

Me too. If he’s not a family member then why waste your time? He’d be blocked faster than you could say “MGTOW”.

And if he is family like an idiot brother or something I find the most effective method is to just mercilessly rag on him in mixed company (don’t do this if your family is violent though!). Or the classic “gray rock”. His goal is to get you triggered and arguing, take that away by either trolling him or ignoring it and focusing on other family members. “Yeah yeah, women are all evil masterminds! 🙄Anyway Dad, how was golfing last weekend?”

It’s an argument to the person (ad hominem) it’s not rational. Tell him he’s arguing emotionally and you’re happy to continue the dialogue when he’s calmed down and he’s ready to argue rationally.

Ugh males are so emotional and unrational

This but unironically. You can barely have an intelligent conversation with them I swear. I’ve given up.

Only ugly women complain about sexism

Me Too kicked into high gear when beautiful Hollywood actresses started speaking out against Harvey Weinstein.

So is he calling himself an ugly woman since that’s exactly the thing he’s constantly complaining about?

I know you're only joking, but this sort of rhetoric reinforces the idea that there's something inherently wrong and/or shameful about being an 'ugly woman'.

I wrote it because that would be my reply to a guy who one on one told me “only ugly women complain about sexism” because that’s what he believes. And I know it wouldn’t have any impact on a larger scale, but maybe he’d think twice before saying that particular sentence while he complains about sexism. It was more about him following his own logic than dragging women but I see your point.

You should read the book "why does he do that" by Lundy buncroft. And look into greyrocking, along with just removing people like this from your life. If he's a friend, get rid of him, just block him and don't bother further. If he's a family member, distance yourself. And if he's a co worker then completely grey rock and never hold personal conversations with him, make sure you always send an email recapping what's been said in private ( if it pertains to work cc your manager), I find this keeps them on their toes since you have a paper trail.