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The men in the comments playing gotcha by pointing out that conservative men can be groomers, as if that means LGBTQ men can't be groomers too.

It's almost like pedophilia is a male problem...

I don’t get this at all. Force birthers using this image of the little girl being mouth covered by a grown men while saying no to abortions is not quite the message they are expecting to say. Makes me remember the abuse they sent at an 11 year old girl who got impregnated by rape by her family member who needed abortion because she would not survive labour. At a state with high numbers of child trafficking in my country. I don’t expect purity from people, but the things are not good anywhere.

They are a single issue group, and that's ok. They are allies regarding protecting children from grooming only.

The Save Our Children march appears to be about multiple conservative concerns regarding the lives and safety of children.

[–] pennygadget 2 points Edited

I was about to comment this. Gays Against Groomers has a very narrow focus that (sadly) doesn't make them popular with any large/influential gay or left wing groups. So I'm not going to shame them for finding allies where they can (within reason).

They were always conservative men. They might care about children (children can be boys too), but if they don't care about women and girls, we don't need to be involved with them. Gay men don't always support women. They're still men!

Why are forced birthers advocating for baby lives with a picture of an elementary school girl being silenced by a grown man?

All that does is remind me how there are already too many suffering children in this world and we should spend our resources and energy on helping them instead of screaming about women murdering fetuses.

Yikes. All they're doing with this is losing women as allies. People who would force children to give birth, which has a huge chance of killing them, do not care about saving our children. They just hate women and girls, and they're also the type to be so homophobic to their children that they internalize enough homophobia to transition.

[–] pennygadget 6 points Edited

Maybe you can whine about this group's purity once 13 year olds aren't being legally castrated anymore??

Gays Against Groomers has a VERY narrow focus. And it makes sense for them to team up with groups who share that focus. Additionally, it helps them foster good will with religious groups who normally wouldn't interact with gays or lesbians. Which is especially important now that mainstream gay organizations are lumping gays and lesbians in with the sick fucks giving hormones to nine year olds.

If you still think they're wrong to do this, fine. But I'd love to see suggestions for a large, influential liberal group that will give Gays Against Groomers the time of day.

Your arguments make no sense. We are supposed to put up with assholes who want to turn us into brood mares because they are the only ones who don’t want to castrate 13 year olds?! It’s insane you are pushing this view on a site for women. MAYBE your argument would hold an ounce of water if it was posted in the GC circle, but it absolutely does not in the womens liberation circle.

I thought this was the GC circle (this thread was on the front page).

Anyway, You can’t achieve anything if you're unwilling to work with or speak to people who don't already share 100% of your views. It honestly can't hurt for these anti-abortion people to have more exposure to left leaning gay/lesbian people who (presumably) are pro-choice. If you're only comfortable preaching to your own choir, that's fine. But its silly to judge the people who are working to expand their message beyond folks who already agree with them

Sadly, some things require working with right wing allies. When I was in college, right wing groups were the only ones standing up against antisemitism on campus. I didn't have the luxury of saying "no" to their help just because I didn't like their stance on abortion. And I think the fight to safeguard children and decouple the LGBs from the TQs is equally important.