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The suspect arrested for murdering Eliza Fletcher kidnapped and raped another woman in September 2021. The kit was finally tested in late August of this year and showed he was the rapist. He was not arrested fast enough to prevent him from killing Eliza Fletcher and destroying the lives of her family.

Because, why? What could possibly justify waiting a year to test a rape kit and run the DNA through CODIS for a match?

We need laws mandating and funding immediate testing.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ny-fletcher-kidnapping-rape-cleotha-alton-henderson-dna-20220911-asshulpqojcyhiegieflsgdlqe-story.html

The suspect arrested for murdering Eliza Fletcher kidnapped and raped another woman in September 2021. The kit was finally tested in late August of this year and showed he was the rapist. He was not arrested fast enough to prevent him from killing Eliza Fletcher and destroying the lives of her family. Because, why? What could possibly justify waiting a year to test a rape kit and run the DNA through CODIS for a match? We need laws mandating and funding immediate testing. https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ny-fletcher-kidnapping-rape-cleotha-alton-henderson-dna-20220911-asshulpqojcyhiegieflsgdlqe-story.html

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[–] madderthanhell 42 points Edited

Just so unconscionable. But as we see over and over again, when it comes to crimes against women the law (of men) has no conscience.

Laws written by men place no value on women's lives. Who would have thought

this is why more women need to be in the parliament, at least 50%. but the moment a woman gets a parliament position or any position of power, men lose their fucking minds.

we have two women in my country's parliament, and when they were first elected, I remember the boomers posting facebook posts with the pictures about how the country is doomed, the prophet said this and that, women shouldn't be leaders, blah blah blah. misogyny all around.

as we say it here, they can't digest it.

Wow I'm late to this thread.

I am a victim advocate for sexual assault victims and I advocate for them by being present and supportive during their SANE exam (rape kit exam).

At least for the state I am in...

  • it's not money. The state has a bucket of money for victim assistance that could rather be diverted to testing rape kits.

  • it's not lack of state employees. The SANE exams are done by volunteer nurses and victim advocates, or staff nurses that work at a discounted rate on top of their normal hospital job. In some instances, it's a hospital nurse while at her normal job. The testing does not use up state resources.

  • is it staffing at the lab? No, if you have them more money they'd hire people. See the bucket of money the state has for victim assistance that never gets used and just rolls over year after year.

What it is or may be, IMHO:

  • time. It is a lot quicker to rape someone than it is to test and process kits. If you take into account the police visiting the scene, their evidence collection, the SANE evidence collection, following collection procedures and chain of evidence, time to get to lab, etc. Etc. It just takes significantly more hours. Multiply that times the number of rapes, then I think you start to approach a number that it is not feasible to have enough staff on hand to do it all.

  • but here's the real reason. THEY WONT TAKE OUR TEST KITS. They agree the test kits are done following procedure. They'll take a few. But otherwise, they literally just sit in our warehouse.

One last thing to consider: some victims get the exam done (the nurses are also providing medical care for free), but do not want the kit processed. We keep it for a certain number of years in case she changes her mind. It is not the responsibility of the victim to get the exam done or to have it processed or to push charges. IMHO, I see this more when the victim knows her rapist or when the victim feels like it's her fault (we try to convince them otherwise, but there's only so much psychological healing I can offer in 4-5 hours).

That is very interesting, thank you for the view from the ground!

What does it mean when you say they won't take your test kits? The police won't take them? Whose warehouse do they stay in?

Our (non profit org, a domestic violence resource center) warehouse.

We say "hey we have more tests." The state says, "nah we don't need them."

The largest reason they say that is because they feel they don't have enough evidence to make a case against someone (the perp was a stranger). So then they don't run the test. Which.. is filled with evidence.

Honestly, it's a miracle none of the staff or volunteers are alcoholics from trying to cope with this. It's maddening.

Just googling "woman grabbed while jogging" comes up with so many hits. I was thinking of this case Massachusetts jogger details how she escaped terrifying abduction attempt. Of course the criminal, Gordon Lyons, has an extensive history of rape and other violent crimes against children and females. This is the only photo I can find of Lyons, Hiding behind his handmaiden lawyer. Pathetic!

Literally never jogging outside. I mean I personally would never feel safe no matter where I am running at 4:30 in the morning, but it’s just too easy to get in a bad situation. :(

[–] bluff 0 points Edited

Can women work as lawyers for male clients without being called handmaidens please?

I understand that you have a job to do. I'd just like to see his face. I live in the general area and I'm sure he's out on the streets again.

As long as democratic DAs are continuing to release violent criminals back on the streets in the name of criminal justice reform this shit is only gonna get worse. Memphis is like a goddamn war zone right now:

DAs do not release violent criminals back on the streets. DAs are prosecutors, not sentencing judges or probation officials.

And Memphis's first Democratic DA in DECADES only took his seat on September 1 of this year, less than 24 hours before Fletcher was murdered*. He has nothing to do with this.

DAs can make policies that release violent criminals back onto the streets, even if they aren't the ones directly releasing them. Take George Gascon, for example. His policies allowed a man to be arrested in the morning, ROR’d the same afternoon, which enabled that man to commit an armed robbery at restaurant I frequent with my family the same night. Gascon’s policies are the reason child molester “Hannah Tubbs”- a grown man- is serving his sentence in a juvenile facility.

Recall George Gascon

Alright I’ll give you that, but DAs absolutely have power over sentencing. They make the recommendations that their jurisdictions adhere to.

Like Alvin Bragg in NYC who’s recommended such violent crimes as armed assaults down to a misdemeanor and has openly bragged about not seeking prison sentencing for many other felony offenses. Chicago DA, Seattle DA, LA DA, San Francisco DA are all doing exactly the same.

Just look at the crime rates in those cities right now and how most of the crimes are done by criminals who’ve been released after serving (usually) short sentences for other violent offenses.

Alvin Bragg

Chicago

They found out in August and she was killed in September... what happened in between? Why wasn't he arrested?Could they not find him?

The police don't really have the resources to go on a manhunt for an offender (unless the offender is an active shooter or a cop killer), especially if he has no known address or hasn't been seen there in a long time. Can't speak to this guy in particular, but many frequent flyers have multiple aliases and often multiple associates they can crash with. It's not like finding Bob in IT who committed a hit and run. Repeat offenders don't live like normal people.

It's not Tennessee specifically. This is across the country. It another example of the misogyny of Patriarchary.

Number 1: you need technicians who are trained to run the test.

Number 2: you need a dedicated facility for the testing.

Rape kits from Memphis are sent to Nashville. It's a Federal money scheme to enrich the Capital. That's why the delay.

The cities with the worst crime rates should have their own dedicated facilities.

Not American , is there anywhere you can donate to speed up the process for these untested kits?!

It's usually that the state lab is underfunded and understaffed. So no. Literally mismanagement by the state government. The only way to fix it is to vote the fuckers out.

In my state, the government made hay about reducing the backlog. All states are like this I think.

No, and worse, sometimes the kits never even make it to where they need to go. The hospitals will collect the kits but the PDs will never pick them up. So they just sit in storage in the hospital with no one doing anything about them at all.

If it's a lack of funding, is there a way for victims to use their own funds, or for a non profit to pay for them or something?

Considering it's all managed by governmental organizations, one way to deal with it would be to make it a political issue. The money already exists, it just has to be allocated there by those in charge.