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The polls have closed in Italy. And it appears that Italy will elect it's first woman prime minister...

...and she's a facist.

A real proper facist. And what does this mean for women?

Meloni is comparable to Le Pen in other ways. Both are examples of what political scientists call “genderwashing,” when female politicians adopt a nonthreatening image to blunt the force of their extremism. Meloni’s signature look involves flowing outfits in pastel shades. To uninformed foreigners, her ascent could look like female empowerment; she poses as a defender of women, even as her party has rolled back women’s rights. In localities it governs, Brothers of Italy has made abortion services—the procedure has been legal in Italy since 1978—harder to access. Municipal authorities in Verona, where the party has shared power with Salvini’s League, declared the city “pro-life.”

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In particular, the natalist obsession of Il Duce’s 20-year rule, with its “Battle for Births,” has survived in the Brothers of Italy’s present-day concern about boosting the birth rate, its proposal to link social-welfare assistance to mothers and those engaged in child care, and its attempts to limit reproductive rights.

In her interview in Venice, Hillary Clinton also remarked on how right-wing parties can sometimes appear better at promoting women. Women like Meloni “are protected by patriarchy,” she said, “because they are often the first to support the fundamental pillars of male power and privilege.” Meloni’s party slogan—“God, Fatherland, Family”—celebrates those very pillars of power. And it came from Mussolini’s dictatorship.

From The Atlantic | The Return of Facism in Italy

There's a reason British left wing feminists are shouting from the rooftops that women need to be wary of aligning with the far right...

The far right is no friend to women.

They see us as support animals for manly men who are in charge & superior; and they see us as breeding units who either need to be prevented from breeding, or coerced into breeding (depending on our skin colour).

The polls have closed in Italy. And it appears that Italy will elect it's first woman prime minister... ...and she's a facist. A real proper facist. And what does this mean for women? > Meloni is comparable to Le Pen in other ways. Both are examples of what political scientists call “genderwashing,” when female politicians adopt a nonthreatening image to blunt the force of their extremism. Meloni’s signature look involves flowing outfits in pastel shades. To uninformed foreigners, her ascent could look like female empowerment; she poses as a defender of women, even as her party has rolled back women’s rights. In localities it governs, Brothers of Italy has made abortion services—the procedure has been legal in Italy since 1978—harder to access. Municipal authorities in Verona, where the party has shared power with Salvini’s League, declared the city “pro-life.” And > In particular, the natalist obsession of Il Duce’s 20-year rule, with its “Battle for Births,” has survived in the Brothers of Italy’s present-day concern about boosting the birth rate, its proposal to link social-welfare assistance to mothers and those engaged in child care, and its attempts to limit reproductive rights. > In her interview in Venice, Hillary Clinton also remarked on how right-wing parties can sometimes appear better at promoting women. Women like Meloni “are protected by patriarchy,” she said, “because they are often the first to support the fundamental pillars of male power and privilege.” Meloni’s party slogan—“God, Fatherland, Family”—celebrates those very pillars of power. And it came from Mussolini’s dictatorship. From [The Atlantic | The Return of Facism in Italy](https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2022/09/giorgia-meloni-italy-election-fascism-mussolini/671515/) There's a reason British left wing feminists are shouting from the rooftops that women need to be wary of aligning with the far right... The far right is no friend to women. They see us as support animals for manly men who are in charge & superior; and they see us as breeding units who either need to be prevented from breeding, or coerced into breeding (depending on our skin colour).

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In her interview in Venice, Hillary Clinton also remarked on how right-wing parties can sometimes appear better at promoting women.

And yet, her party sucks at giving a damn about women too. She herself got piled on by "Obama bros" in 2008 and later the "Bernie Bros" in 2016. Meanwhile, for today's Democrats, pathetic, grotesque imitations like Dick Levine, and crazed handmaidens like Dr. Yeet the Teets, have taken precedent over the real, legitimate concerns of real, legitimate women. They had opportunities to codify Roe instead of leaving it up to the whims of unelected guys in robes. They dangled it like a carrot for fundraising purposes until the dog finally caught the car. The right wants forced birth, while ostensible liberals either can't or won't even correctly state what a woman even is, accuse other women of being "fascists" for saying what a woman is, and come up with utterly ludicrous pretzel logic to justify mutilating those forcibly-born children to placate the gender gods.

I guess women need to form our own women's-only party.

I guess women need to form our own women's-only party.

Which would implode beneath the weight of infighting within the first few months, if not days.

[–] Lilith 12 points Edited

It would if it was just generic for everything and nothing. Just like men have different ideas about the world and don't make "Man parties", so do women. If we're to have a women's party it needs a clear, unifying message and know what it's about and what it's not about.

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They had opportunities to codify Roe instead of leaving it up to the whims of unelected guys in robes.

People keep saying this like Dems can wave a wand and anything can happen. If the constitution could not protect abortion rights, then a statute never could have either. It's a state issue. Dems did everything they could to protect the constitutional right to abortion, and that was all they could do. They lost elections over it. We are way too quick to forget the battles fought on our behalf.

Totally agree that they have lost their way on the trans issue and are misogynistic in their own right by failing to promote women candidates. But to some extent that is the fault of voters, not the party itself... Dems never gave a shit about trans rights privileges until the party got hijacked by Bernie bros. Dems have done more to advance women candidates than Republicans ever did until very recently. The fact that women candidates don't win when Democrats put them on the ballot says more about voters than it does the party.