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The polls have closed in Italy. And it appears that Italy will elect it's first woman prime minister...

...and she's a facist.

A real proper facist. And what does this mean for women?

Meloni is comparable to Le Pen in other ways. Both are examples of what political scientists call “genderwashing,” when female politicians adopt a nonthreatening image to blunt the force of their extremism. Meloni’s signature look involves flowing outfits in pastel shades. To uninformed foreigners, her ascent could look like female empowerment; she poses as a defender of women, even as her party has rolled back women’s rights. In localities it governs, Brothers of Italy has made abortion services—the procedure has been legal in Italy since 1978—harder to access. Municipal authorities in Verona, where the party has shared power with Salvini’s League, declared the city “pro-life.”

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In particular, the natalist obsession of Il Duce’s 20-year rule, with its “Battle for Births,” has survived in the Brothers of Italy’s present-day concern about boosting the birth rate, its proposal to link social-welfare assistance to mothers and those engaged in child care, and its attempts to limit reproductive rights.

In her interview in Venice, Hillary Clinton also remarked on how right-wing parties can sometimes appear better at promoting women. Women like Meloni “are protected by patriarchy,” she said, “because they are often the first to support the fundamental pillars of male power and privilege.” Meloni’s party slogan—“God, Fatherland, Family”—celebrates those very pillars of power. And it came from Mussolini’s dictatorship.

From The Atlantic | The Return of Facism in Italy

There's a reason British left wing feminists are shouting from the rooftops that women need to be wary of aligning with the far right...

The far right is no friend to women.

They see us as support animals for manly men who are in charge & superior; and they see us as breeding units who either need to be prevented from breeding, or coerced into breeding (depending on our skin colour).

The polls have closed in Italy. And it appears that Italy will elect it's first woman prime minister... ...and she's a facist. A real proper facist. And what does this mean for women? > Meloni is comparable to Le Pen in other ways. Both are examples of what political scientists call “genderwashing,” when female politicians adopt a nonthreatening image to blunt the force of their extremism. Meloni’s signature look involves flowing outfits in pastel shades. To uninformed foreigners, her ascent could look like female empowerment; she poses as a defender of women, even as her party has rolled back women’s rights. In localities it governs, Brothers of Italy has made abortion services—the procedure has been legal in Italy since 1978—harder to access. Municipal authorities in Verona, where the party has shared power with Salvini’s League, declared the city “pro-life.” And > In particular, the natalist obsession of Il Duce’s 20-year rule, with its “Battle for Births,” has survived in the Brothers of Italy’s present-day concern about boosting the birth rate, its proposal to link social-welfare assistance to mothers and those engaged in child care, and its attempts to limit reproductive rights. > In her interview in Venice, Hillary Clinton also remarked on how right-wing parties can sometimes appear better at promoting women. Women like Meloni “are protected by patriarchy,” she said, “because they are often the first to support the fundamental pillars of male power and privilege.” Meloni’s party slogan—“God, Fatherland, Family”—celebrates those very pillars of power. And it came from Mussolini’s dictatorship. From [The Atlantic | The Return of Facism in Italy](https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2022/09/giorgia-meloni-italy-election-fascism-mussolini/671515/) There's a reason British left wing feminists are shouting from the rooftops that women need to be wary of aligning with the far right... The far right is no friend to women. They see us as support animals for manly men who are in charge & superior; and they see us as breeding units who either need to be prevented from breeding, or coerced into breeding (depending on our skin colour).

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Hilary is smart as a whip.

She's smart on policy, really really not smart on politics. In a better world she would have been in the cabinet of several successive administrations. Being a good retail politician requires a lot of things, but ironically keen intelligence is not one of them. (George W Bush, Reagan, even - vomit - DJT all had a certain visceral feel for how to get elected, despite being dull intellects.)

Sadly, I think she could have been an absolutely mastermind at politics and would still have been taken down by the misogyny machine. Will never forgive the male libs I know for “just not liking her.”

Possibly - that's one of those unknowables. But her choice not to campaign in the rust best, while Bill Clinton was pushing for it, is the sort of example I have in mind.

The thing that pisses me off is I suspect the "just not liking her" is code for "would not fuck." They seem ok with AOC, who is vastly less accomplished and intelligent (and some of this might change in time, but AOC is just not the intellect that HRC was even at that age), but Hillary was ew, old, and a bit of a scold who told people to do things differently, rather than appearing at the Met Gala with things written on her bum.

Weirdly, women don't vote for men based on whom they could imagine screwing.

Will never forgive the male libs I know for “just not liking her.”

Female libs are no shrinking violets when it comes to hating on Hillary Clinton.