Rant The ways we approach male and female mental health

Agree.

But I’d add that some women’s mental illnesses are fetishised, if young and considered attractive, it’s seen as hot and that crazy chicks fuck like mad etc

Men receive much much more public funds on their mh. The research on mh is heavily geared towards men only (despite the additional risk of pregnancy or female only related mh problems like pmdd/pmt etc). There’s minimal research on women and suicide but what there is indicates that women attempt suicide x3 as much as men, but are less likely to be ‘successful’ (because men are socialised to be violent so use violent means like jumping and guns and car crashes-which pose risk to others also) so get brushed off as attention seeking. Suicide prevent focuses much more on men than women and there’s a variety of male only support resources/lines and the other main ones are for both. Suicide especially bothers me because how many of these men we are prioritising are family annihilators, murder (of women) suicides, men awaiting charges or convicted of sexual violence or dv against women and children? Maybe if we prioritise saving these poor poor menz they will just murder or rape more of us. Plus women suffering ptsd/cptsd from male violence get overlooked horrifically imho.

Pete Davidson has borderline personality disorder and is hugely popular, in part because of it. Yet, at the same time, women deemed “problematic,” Amber Heard for example, are armchair diagnosed with BPD and called monsters for it.

Just look at Pete Davidson. He’s got a serious personality disorder and yet very wealthy and beautiful women fall at his feet. (And really, he’s not attractive.)

A woman with the same disorder is viewed as garbage by society and it can be difficult to find anyone to date.

I forget where or when the test was, but they found that when people picked the traits of a 'healthy' woman, the same traits were considered neurotic in men. Also, the kind of depression most often found in women is called Atypical depression, like women can't even get that right.

Yep. You’re totally right.

However I do notice that boogie has a lot of people “who want to see him get better” who were actually delighting in the entertainment of watching him be a lolcow.

Chris Chan is another example. Lots of people were upset that he “treated women badly” and was “racist” and “never learned or took accountability” but really they loved laughing at him. It makes them feel better about themselves.

What really trips me up is that the idea guys and that one 13-year-old boy who catfished him and convinced him to film a video of him putting figurines up his butt get some criticism, but the woman who got him to confess to raping his mom has been maligned perhaps more than Chris. Which I get, because she apparently assaulted other women and wanted to assault more and also tortured animals, and the phone call is super suspicious even to me (I’m still not convinced chris is guilty at all), but I am still shocked at how little outrage there was for men who literally tortured him for months and made him film it.

All this to say I definitely agree the female lolcows are treated much worse even though they don’t do any of the evil shit the male ones do (with the exception of Bella above). However a lot of the male ones are not receiving the love you might think. There’s a whole lot of SAYING “I just want him to get better” as an excuse for why you’re harassing a lolcow. Much like the whole “I just want you to be healthy” bullshit men start to pull when their wives stop looking like their pornsick fantasies.

Oh, i haven't checked in on ALR is a while, that is sad news that she's sick and her ankle.

In general, though don't forget the romanticized Manic Pixie Dream Girl trop. But, yeah a lot of men get away with shit because "they were misunderstood" or it's their mom's fault 🙄.

I find internet personalities like ALR and boogie absolutely fascinating from a psychological standpoint, so I know the context of what you're talking about. I also find the fixation that "haydurs" have on her to be so strange, and that's also fascinating.

My disorganized thoughts: he majority of people who make critical content of her are women (with some gay men). Her target audience has never been men. Meanwhile for boogie, women were never really part of his audience, and those critical of him are men. And sadly, men don't tend to give much of a fuck about men who are abusive to women. I've seen it pointed out before on this website, the way men close ranks. Maybe this is an example of that? I'm having trouble putting my exact feelings on this in to words, but I think the primarily male vs female audience definitely has a role.

Honestly no, most men I know hide their mental health, or you get the ones that use it as an excuse to get sympathy, young women tend to fall for it and feel sorry for them but most people over 25 have learned not to do that and ignore them, in general its ignored anyway.

in general I don't hear much about women, theres not tonnes of them claiming depression and demanding sympathy for example like the men keep doing, but I guess it depends what circles you are in, I am in circles with people who've all had their problems down the years and don't talk about it unless they are asked for advice.

when I go to the GP about things they tend to be blamed on my anxiety as I am on the books as having that, but they do exactly the same with a male relative who has anxiety problems too