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I intentionally do not have a tiktok, but sometimes I get sucked into short videos because all social platforms are trying to be more like tiktok. I was innocently enjoying videos by this Canadian creator that goes around public places and gives money to people when they make him laugh with their jokes. Then one of his older clips was recommended to me - him mockingly acting out Amber Heard’s testimony as her voice detailed a horrible encounter. Completely at odds with the other videos I’d seen. I was so frustrated— I would not have given this guy views or likes if I’d known what a dodo bird he truly was.

Heard was also not spared from Bill Maher’s Halloween monologue the other day. I tell you — that man may have common sense enough to know that biological sex is real, but that certainly doesn’t make him a hero. I’ve cringed the few times I’ve seen clips of him using Heard as a punchline. It also just seems so disappointingly lazy.

Sorry to hammer on this, but it’s so frustrating to see grifters using this woman’s pain to get cheap laughs and views. And I’m over the tik-tokification of social media.

I intentionally do not have a tiktok, but sometimes I get sucked into short videos because all social platforms are trying to be more like tiktok. I was innocently enjoying videos by this Canadian creator that goes around public places and gives money to people when they make him laugh with their jokes. Then one of his older clips was recommended to me - him mockingly acting out Amber Heard’s testimony as her voice detailed a horrible encounter. Completely at odds with the other videos I’d seen. I was so frustrated— I would not have given this guy views or likes if I’d known what a dodo bird he truly was. Heard was also not spared from Bill Maher’s Halloween monologue the other day. I tell you — that man may have common sense enough to know that biological sex is real, but that certainly doesn’t make him a hero. I’ve cringed the few times I’ve seen clips of him using Heard as a punchline. It also just seems so disappointingly lazy. Sorry to hammer on this, but it’s so frustrating to see grifters using this woman’s pain to get cheap laughs and views. And I’m over the tik-tokification of social media.

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The most annoying thing is when libfems try to checkmate us "TERFs" by saying: "Amber supports trans people and donates to the ACLU. Do you still support her, ya hateful TERFS!!??"

And we're like, "Uh...yeah. We don't have to like her personally to object to her being raped and beaten (and then humiliated in court) by her shitty ex-husband. We don't want to see that happening to ANY woman"

Amber Heard is the current cultural scapegoat, a public target that everyone is allowed to direct unlimited misogyny towards without consequence. The entire phenomenon needs to cease, I don't care if I personally disagree with the target on any number of issues. The way our culture puts women on pedestals and then delights in burning them shows its true nature. It has to end, for all of us. The tearing apart of the scapegoat encourages people to treat all women similarly. It puts all women "in our place." The number of women sharing stories about their (abusive) male partners bringing up Amber Heard during fights and abuse is very telling.

Just yesterday I heard about how in the Middle Ages -this was about Artemisia Gentileschi - women who came forward about rape were themselves tortured in order to see if they would recant, since they were presumed to be liars out to destroy innocent men’s lives for petty reasons. I immediately thought of Amber Heard. And how we still torture women who speak out.

They think we’re like them. They’re the ones wishing death and hate on women because they deemed them “terfs” and if “terfs” have been abused in any way they laugh about it.

Agreed. I don’t want to see anyone raped and abused. It doesn’t matter if I like them or not. Even if Heard were a terrible person, rape and abuse are not acceptable ways to correct or punish a person. Condoning inhumane treatment of a person because they find her unpleasant really shows who they are.

It’s also not just about Heard herself.This ridiculous verdict and the media circus around it is likely to cause a chilling effect on women breaking silence about abuse they endure. It was hard enough knowing we’re likely to be made social pariah for speaking up. Speaking up already meant a woman’s life put under a microscope so people could check for signs that she deserved the abuse. Now abusers know we can be successfully sued for communicating to others that we were abused, even if the evidence of their abuse is stacked to the ceiling.

Its also not just about Heard herself.This ridiculous verdict and the media circus around it is likely to cause a chilling effect on women breaking silence about abuse they endure. It was hard enough knowing we’re likely to be made social pariah for speaking up.

Good point. Its hard to believe that so many women don't see the danger in this ruling (and the beating Heard took on social media) regardless of whether or not she "deserved it". The handmaidens all think that it wouldn't happen to them because they would be "real victims" (not liars like Amber The Gold Digging Succubus)

True. And there's a lot of "well, I'm too smart to ever allow myself to be put in a situation like that" or "just don't pick the wrong man!" type of judgement with those types as well..

I've seen this on twitter so often. Not only are they unable to imagine supporting someone who doesn't belong to their cult, but they seem to think everyone's just as brainwashed.

It will never cease to fascinate me.

Yup. This feels just like the endless arguments I've had with alleged liberal dudes that it's not ok to call conservative women sex-based slurs. Sexism against women you don't like is still sexism.

Some of us have actual ethical standards. :-)

OMG, my time at a leftie non-profit was awful because it was around the 2008 election. So I had to listen to both men AND women who identified as feminists talk about "Palin's slutty daughter" and how all pro-life women deserved to be impregnated via rape. And they would act all confused when I told them that sexist slurs & rape threats are bad even when directed at women like Sarah Palin or Ann Coulter

What the actual fuck. I was too young to be in the know back then, but that is absolutely sickening. The “punishment” of women with sexual violence in literally any circumstance is unacceptable. Which we would understand if we acknowledged women as human!

This is a major nope for me. Any time you’re calling a woman a bitch, Karen, cunt, etc., because you disagree with them — I’m out. Even if a woman is a terrible human being, I can still acknowledge her humanity.

Exactly! Worse yet, I saw multiple creators say that TERFs were part of the anti-Heard bullshit during the actual trial, because > TERFs like JKR > JKR made HP > Grindelwald spin-off included Depp > therefore we like Depp? Checkmate, feminists /s

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I'm so over that whole thought process of "if a man hits you or rapes you, you must be a Good Victim or it doesn't count." My brother beat me when we were kids. You better bet I got angry at times and hit him back. There were even times that I could see it coming and got in the first lick because he was going to hit me anyway. Is it logical or rational? Probably not. Is it nice? Definitely not. But it also does not mean he wasn't the main instigator. Because if he had never raised a hand to me I certainly would not have hit him. It wouldn't have even occurred to me, because I wasn't that sort of person.

In the beginning I thought Amber had this pattern of being abusive in relationships because of that rumor going around about her ex-girlfriend, but turns out everyone had it wrong and the ex actually defended her later. But even there, Johnny vs Amber is not a fair fight even if she started it. It blows my mind, we understand this concept if it's two men in a boxing ring and would cry foul if a bantamweight/featherweight were pitted against a heavyweight. But when it's women vs men suddenly that sense of fair play completely breaks down? No. I'm not buying into that bullshit. It's blatant misogyny. The dynamics aren't even the same if a man leaves an abusive heterosexual relationship. The worst he usually has to contend with is her harassing him by phone or email or whatever afterward. Men usually survive leaving, though. Not so with women. If a woman leaves an abusive man that's the time in which she is at greatest risk for him killing her. So I feel completely comfortable asking a man who cries Abuse By Woman, "So why didn't you leave?" Because for men, that would actually work. Johnny didn't leave. He stayed and he doubled down. I have zero sympathy even if we could establish Amber was jUsT aS aBuSiVe. Which we can't because Depp lied through his damn teeth.

Men can always walk away and should be legally held accountable for doing anything else out of their sense of ragey entitlement.

I often wonder how accepting men to compete in women's sports plays into all of that...

*edited to add- our society becoming more tolerant of male on female violence

Not sure why I got downvoted here..? I don't think that it's too far fetched of an idea that once our society start finding it acceptable for males to compete with women and girls in sport, that men beating up on women could become more socially acceptable too. In fact, it already seems to be happening..

I had to stop watching Maher because he's making anti-Heard jokes literally every fucking episode now. Men really can't get over it. You're right about it being lazy.

I'm with you. This shit is so tiresome. I have family members who are pro-Depp because all they know is Tik Tok propaganda (also they hate women and are always whining about how hard men have it). There's a tremendous amount of anti woman bullshit on that site. It's really pushing "tradwife" content, for instance.

That site really is just one huge astroturfed propaganda machine as far as I'm concerned.

Even if Amber completely made it up, you're using a story of domestic abuse as a punchline. How would a woman that actually had been through all that feel, seeing you mock her abuse? What did this whole disgusting affair tell other abuse victims about how their abuse will be perceived if they're not a "good" victim?

I hope she counter sues and fucks him over.

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I’ve had 3rd grade boys and girls tell me she’s a liar and that Johnny is “innocent.” Completely unprompted and unrelated to our topics. They learned their misogyny from somewhere…

Yup. Everyone I know except for myself and two other people is pro-Depp. People really are misogynist and fucking dumb.

It's weird how they tend to bring it up out of nowhere, right? I guess they're all just so mentally preoccupied by it. Bizarre.

It might be because the majority of the public seems to be, or at least was, on Depp's side, it was widely publicized, and it involved celebrity drama, so it became like a small talk topic people could bond over as they supported the same side.

That's interesting. My godson asked me out of the blue a couple months ago and I guess he asked the right person because i discussed the trial for like 5 mins and said to him and his brother and sister it was important to detect abuse in a relationship early. My sis and BIL just sat there and were like, yeah we're too busy to have had followed it. I don't know anyone who is pro-Depp.

My mom called me up to talk. She was on a Depp movie marathon and I was like, why?? She watched the trial through like it was a soap opera and came away believing they were both bad people but that Depp was a poor dumb victim of a man and she was wicked and conniving. I repeated over and over that I didn't want to talk about it. The things she said came way too close to things she said in the past which had me hiding and blaming myself for abuse I'd faced.

She's not thinking about it at all now, and I'm still hurt by the things she said.

Sorry that happened. I have a lot of people in my life I've never told about my abuse because they blame victims so often. I wonder how you can be so fucking stupid and callous as to say those things without stopping to think "am I potentially alienating a victim that I know by sounding like a complete jackass?"

I'm sorry. It sucks. I can only hope she got her opinions from secondary sources and not the trail itself. I know she said she watched it, but even the recaps on Court TV were awful and biased.

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Outside of radfem spaces (and there are even some radfems who mock her, which is disappointing) finding pro-Amber spaces are rare as hell. There are some liberal feminists who support her, but they also spend 50% of their time virtue signaling to TRAs that, despite the fact that liberal feminist allies are busy "Men are victims too!" -ing it all over Twitter, Tik Tok, and Tumblr they DO NOT approve of radical feminists. They'll reblog from us and use our words, but we are total scum in their eyes.

Maybe if liberals are all celebrating a woman "finally getting hers" and the only safe place you can find are among evil TERFs, you should question why that is. But nope. Radfems should choke and die.

Anyway, I feel bad for Amber but if she ever gets justice, it won't be for decades. It's literally going to take a new generation. Kind of like what happened with Britney Spears.

There are some media sites on her side, but most of them (Vox, Vice, Rolling Stone, etc.) are guilty of the "women are just as capable of being abusers and hateful as men!" and the constant promotion of the "evil, rich white Karens deserve everything they get" narrative that Gen Z holds so closely which helped lead to this. Idk what to tell them. Spread misogyny 24/7 and this is how things will turn out. You created a class of women it's acceptable to hate while still pretending to be progressive. Of course misogynists are going to cling to that.

The deuxmoi subreddit is pretty pro Amber last I checked.

And unfortunately extremely anti-radfem and huge TRAs. Their defense of women stops at women standing up for women‘s rights. Had to leave that sub.

BELLE ANTOINETTE. I love her videos on yt, she was recommended on this site, and she covers a range of feminist points. I also love her friend she has on sometimes.

It's everywhere! I had to stop browsing pumpkin stencils on Stoneykins because they had stencils making fun of her. Pumpkin Stencils!

Link to screenshot

Ugh. That trial caused a lot of people to show their asses. A female artist i like fell hard into the "JUSTICE FOR JOHNNY" movement and started selling artwork with that slogan. The way she talked about him, you'd think Depp was Nelson Mandela or something. It was pathetic

I can't believe Chan Marshall fell for it..that was extremely disappointing

I unsubscribed from a music channel on youtube because they made a Pirates of the Caribbean themed playlist to celebrate Depp "winning" and proceeded to like any pro-Depp/anti-Heard comment under it. A music channel. The most sensible thing would've been to stay out of it entirely because their content has nothing to do with it, but the desire to be misogynist was to strong I guess.

I also seriously doubt all these people being so loudly pro-Depp actually made an effort to read up on the case so they're blindly believing the man even though everyone is always complaining that women are more often believed 🙄

Are you talking about Samuel Kim? Yeah, I used to like him too. I’m so tempted to pirate his stuff out of spite now.

No, I was talking about a channel called Pandora Journey. Depressing to know someone else did the exact same thing though

I’m a firm believer in separation of the art and the artist, but this topic is one of the few things that will make me jump ship with a creator or whatever.

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