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I remember coming across a screed written by an angry anti-feminist man, whose main argument consisted of the idea that feminists are hypocritical because they “complain” about some “anti-feminist” words and not others. He claimed that feminists insist that words like “gunman” should NOT be changed to “gun woman” in the context of a female shooter, but that they ask for words like “policeman” to be changed to “police officer.” He was so smug about this weird-ass weak augment and I just remember thinking, “Wait… this is all you’ve got?”

First, to state what I would have thought was obvious… would men consider it fine if I called male flight attendants “stewardesses” (the original term, as far as I know)? I assume not. So gee, I wonder why women push for gender neutral terminology. It just makes sense.

But as for his claim of hypocrisy, I don’t think I have ever actually heard a feminist insisting we not use the term “gun woman” in the actual context of a gun-woman? And hey, maybe if as many women were out there murdering people with guns as men were, we’d hear it more often…

Anyway, just find it so funny that some dudes feel so qualified in speaking about what feminism does or doesn’t do, and thinking their arguments are these bulletproof dunks when really they are riddled with the holes of pure idiocy.

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I remember coming across a screed written by an angry anti-feminist man, whose main argument consisted of the idea that feminists are hypocritical because they “complain” about some “anti-feminist” words and not others. He claimed that feminists insist that words like “gunman” should NOT be changed to “gun woman” in the context of a female shooter, but that they ask for words like “policeman” to be changed to “police officer.” He was so smug about this weird-ass weak augment and I just remember thinking, “Wait… this is all you’ve got?” First, to state what I would have thought was obvious… would men consider it fine if I called male flight attendants “stewardesses” (the original term, as far as I know)? I assume not. So gee, I wonder why women push for gender neutral terminology. It just makes sense. But as for his claim of hypocrisy, I don’t think I have ever actually heard a feminist insisting we not use the term “gun woman” in the actual context of a gun-woman? And hey, maybe if as many women were out there murdering people with guns as men were, we’d hear it more often… Anyway, just find it so funny that some dudes feel so qualified in speaking about what feminism does or doesn’t do, and thinking their arguments are these bulletproof dunks when really they are riddled with the holes of pure idiocy. :P

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Google gunman. Forty zillion results.

Google gunwoman. They ask, Do you mean gun woman?

OK, then: gun woman. A few thousand results.

And you have to scroll down a dozen pages or so to find one that is not a fictional character.

[–] spacykate 8 points Edited

Before flight atttendants were called by the gender neutral term flight attendant, the male version was called a steward. I once called a male flight attendant on a plane a steward to a female flight attendant and she got kind of mad, she was like "you mean flight attendant right?"

If these mythical feminists are arguing against using the term "gunwoman," then it's likely for the same reason feminists have argued against using the term "police woman" and "stewardess": There is no need to include gender in these terms when we have perfectly good alternatives. We can instead use "police officer" and "flight attendant." The same goes with "gunman" and "gun woman." The term "shooter" is simpler, more streamlined, and far less bulky than "gunwoman."

I remember decades ago having some stupid argument like this with a man, and he said something about 'workman's comp' (US labour law, protecting people injured at work)--'what would you call that, huh? huh?' and I just said 'workers' comp?'. So many of these expressions have gratuitous 'man' tossed into them, there are generally much easier ways to say them.

I loooove those moments—when they think they’ve stumped us with some brain-buster, and we respond with something obvious and logical and they’re just like, “Uhhh”!

Oh, to have the self-confidence of a porn-brained scrote with only a handful of straw man arguments and little else…

Changing "gunman" to "gunwoman" changes it from one gender to the other, while changing "policeman" to "police officer" makes it gender neutral. Those are two different things, so it wouldn't be hypocritical to support one and not the other.

Dude

We have tons of examples of police women

Find me the link to all the feminists fighting against the word ‘gunwoman’,

and more importantly

All the example where the phrase’gunwoman’ is needed, and ill concede your scroty little point.