If there are no buyers then there is no demand to fill.

I had the unpleasant experience of listening to men attack women for getting abortions. When I finally got to speak I said "Well stop having sex with these women then! They can't impregnate themselves! If you really feel so strongly, only have sex with your wives and talk about whether or not you want children first. Is that so hard?"

They just went back to how women are all sleeping with hundreds of men (in male fantasy world, women act the way they do in porn I guess?) and getting pregnant just to get abortions. I told them "Again, if you men would just go on strike and refuse to have sex with these women, nobody would be getting pregnant would they?"

As soon as you try to shift the responsibility to the male, they freak out.

[–] shveya 24 points (+24|-0)

I'm convinced that almost no anti-choice male actually cares about the fetus.

From my experience, the anti-abortion men (with a few exceptions of hardcore religious people) are overall women-haters.

Their anti-abortion rants are linked to their claim that women are all super promiscuous, won't have any eggs after 30 (???), are going to be sorry they didn't marry an older man while she was young and had "sexual marketplace value" etc. It's all Manosphere crap that reflects how angry these men are that young girls aren't throwing themselves at them.

They don't actually want to be good fathers. They just want to make sure women are "barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen."

[–] shveya 7 points (+7|-0)

They are woman haters to the extreme. It's why they're okay with abortion in the cases of rape or incest. To them, as long as the woman didn't have the audacity to enjoy consensual sex with a man, it's not necessary to be punished with an unwanted medical condition for being disobedient.

[–] Kevina 15 points (+15|-0) Edited

they don't. they don't like the fact that they get no say so in the matter, except for the choice to either not have sex or have protected sex, and they don't like that. And because this way they can resent the woman for which ever choice she makes. If she has the abortion he's mad cause he didn't have a choice, and if she does have the baby he's mad that he has to support it and didn't have a choice. The choice to never have had sex seems not to occur to them.

[–] shveya 9 points (+9|-0)

The choice to never have had sex seems not to occur to them.

Of course not, male pleasure is the most important thing in the world!