Women’s (and girls’) rights being protected. No forced language whatsoever. No special privileges for men who identify as trans, they can all fuck themselves. TIFs getting the help they need, especially the kids. Gender ideology being seen as the idiocy it is, I can’t stand how dumb this has made people. No more corruption of science or society.

Child "transition" banned.

Adult "transition" treated as what it is, cosmetic surgery, to be paid for out of pocket.

Medical industry to start treating this as the mental disorder it is, BDD.

Women (and men's!) sex-based rights to be protected.

Sex can never be legally changed on official documentation, thereby keeping our crime statistics and the like truthful.

And I'd love for people to open their eyes and start treating trans as the loony extreme religious cult it is. I mean sure, people join those, but no one celebrates it! We need to stop celebrating this bullshit.

Everything already said here about women's sex-based protections and gender abolition.

I'd go further though -- all "trans" procedures should be abolished, with robust evidence-based medical and mental health care in place for those already "transed" as well as destransers/desistors.

Reasoning: affirmative psychological and medical procedures are not civil rights or liberties, they are dangerous experimental procedures. Challenges to the Dutch Protocol and emerging evidence reveal they do not improve mental health, physical health, or quality-of-life measures long term. (If they did reliably improve those measures long term, and if "gender dysphoria" were a discreet condition, we'd be seeing very different emerging evidence.)

It's a medical misadventure based on shaky evidence from a questionable discipline (sexology) with a fraught history and advanced by activism, not need. It's not treatment -- it's mistreatment. Medicine and psychology need to do better.

1. Sex segregated spaces for women and girls (bathrooms, locker rooms, prisons, etc.) will be universally protected, with mandatory jail time and lifetime sex offender registration for men who are caught infiltrating. Repeat offenders will be either institutionalized or imprisoned for life.

2. Men’s prisons and public bathrooms will be required to enforce safety measures for GNC and trans males. “Gender neutral” bathrooms would not be a thing, men will be forced to tolerate each other and act like civilized adults or face the consequences.

3. Total and complete ban on male inclusion in organized women’s athletic competitions on every level, from high school sports to the Olympics. Violating this rule is punished as a form of cheating that warrants a lifetime ban from all future competition, even in the men’s division. Zero exceptions. This applies not just to TIMs, but intersex men with a Y chromosome (you’re not a woman just because your balls are on the inside, Caster Semenya). Women’s sports will no longer be seen as a category that failed men can be lumped in with.

4. Stringent free speech laws that protect people, especially GC women, from being deplatformed or discriminated against. We have the right to press hate crime charges against trans activists who attempt to use intimidation, threats, or slander to silence feminist critics. Under no circumstances is “misgendering” or “deadnaming” a punishable offense, and it is illegal to compel anyone to use special pronouns.

5. Total ban on both medical transition and any manner of “gender-affirming therapy” for minors. Children will not be allowed to socially transition, either—schools will have to protect GNC minors, and genuinely distressed kids will receive counseling that is structured to help them accept themselves as they are. Any parents that try to coerce or enable a child under the age of 18 to medically transition, whether it’s buying black market hormones online or taking them overseas to get surgeries, can expect to face felony child abuse charges.

6. Regarding adult transitions, the medical community will move away from the “affirmation” model and return to stricter gatekeeping than ever before. It will not be considered an option at all for anyone with a criminal background or certain severe psychological disorders. Years of mandatory therapy should be required before even hormones are made available. Gender dysphoria will be understood as the severe mental illness that it is and not a normal thing like sexual orientation.

7. There will be no changing your sex legally, period. Completing a transition will not be grounds to change sex on someone’s ID or birth certificate. TIPs who “pass” will have to be completely transparent about their actual sex on any document and when applying for employment. Doing otherwise will be considered fraud and has legal consequences.

It becomes so laughable and uncool that the purveyors slink into the shadows . . .

One thing I really wanna see in the endgame is the vanishing of these stupid language changes. I hate how they try and force us to change our language by coming up with all kinds of stupid pronouns or "gender-inclusive" language, claiming that it makes them "visible". They're like, what, not even a percent of the world's population? Fuck off. I ain't changing my language for a bunch of narcissists.

Totally agree on women's safe spaces and the ability to gather and exclude TIMs. I also wanna be able to attend gatherings like "Let women speak" without having to wonder if there will be enough police to ward off any raging TIMs and their allies.

I want kids that have been talked into transitioning to sue the living hell out of anybody involved, including their parents.

I want the WHO to once again acknowledge that people who readily mutilate their body and pop hormones are mentally ill. After all, people cutting themselves because they hate their body or people with eating disorders are being treated as mentally ill, too.

I want TIMS out of all women's spaces, and I want TIMs and TIFs out of public schools. I want all gender ideology out of public schools.

I want laws passed so gender affirmation is against the law for all minors in all circumstances.

I want all laws that allow sex to be changed on legal documents to be declared void.

They need to be treated like the mentally ill people they are, who are most likely capable of holding jobs but not teaching children.

Short term game: legal protection of sex based rights

Long term game: that society in general realizes that gender ideology is a cult and becomes gender critical

The endgame for me personally would be getting my grandson (who thinks he's a girl) to speak with me again, to realise he lost a good thing when he prioritised an ideology over his family.

The endgame will never happen as a whole. The ideology has to be chipped away at by individuals, by parents, by sensible lawmakers, by strong women. Men can't be us.

I want to see all the legal documents being changed back to show everyone's true sex.

For me:

1. Recognition of "women," "girls" and "lesbians" as a class of female humans and female sexuality separate from the class of males (boys and men) and using accurate language to reflect this in all areas of society (law, medicine, etc.). This also means discontinuing the use of false terms or euphemisms like "transgender" "nonbinary" "transition" "gender-affirming," etc.

2. Recognition of the differences between male and female people and legal protections for women and girls as a class (single-sex spaces, services, and organizations)

3. The ban of medical procedures such as surgery and the use of drugs for the sake of cosmetic alterations done on minors and those not of sound mental health. Recognition of these procedures as being cosmetic in nature and the use of language in medicine to reflect this rather than the fiction of "transitioning" to a different type of person.

4. The controlled use of hormones for medicinal health purposes only and a ban on plastic surgeons performing genital mutilations on children and adults.

5. A ban against indoctrinating children in the belief of a "gender soul" and the idea of sex as a spectrum in all schools and public institutions. Correct education on the meaning and categorization of sex (how a body has developed in terms of reproduction: small vs. large gametes). A return to the recognition of "gender" as meaning "masculine" and "feminine" and the freedom for those of both sexes to be either.

6. Recognition of the fact that desiring to be the opposite sex is not an inherent disposition but an environmentally induced condition rooted in homophobia, sexism, sexual fetishism, trauma, social contagion, poor mental health, autism, and other mental health issues, and that therapy should be more specific in treating these issues rather than assuming one is a special type of human being who needs to mutilate their body and pretend to be the opposite sex in order to prevent them from inevitably taking their own life.

I want people to look back and view this as an insane fad, on the level of Satanic panic; a crazy fever dream that had terrible effects on the unfortunate people who bought into it. Most importantly, it needs to be so cringe and stupid that kids make fun of it.

I want the sex-based issues of women to be recognized and solutions in place for these to advance the liberation of women. That means sex segregated spaces for women in vulnerable situations (bathrooms, changing rooms, abuse shelters...), protection of women's sports, no fraud of sex on legal documents and in society (especially in medical settings), and the inclusion of women in a real way for medical studies.

I also want the abolition of gender roles to advance the liberation of women. No assumptions about women's mental abilities or interests; nor pushing behavioral expectations; and the interaction with women as full humans.

The 'I'd also like a pegasus' wish list? This entire idiotic ideology be relegated to the dustbin of history, and everyone in a position of trust, authority, or power more generally who abused it to further this destructive pseudoscience face appropriate accountability for their actions. That appropriate lessons are learned, scientific rigor is restored and tightened the hell up, that the flagrant medical abuse is reigned back in and doctors are actually held to the Hippocratic Oath, that academia is strongly established once again as a true marketplace of ideas rather than an indoctrination center, that publicly funded institutions are held to the requirement to remain politically neutral, that massive corporations are burned badly enough that their executives will think twice about trying to impose their will on the population, and that needed safeguarding is restored and bolstered. That sex is recognized by its real terms and gender (aka regressive gender roles, stereotypes, etc) is dismissed as regressive nonsense. That people are allowed to dress as they please (within some socially-conscious parameters) and like the things they do without being seen as less or more of a woman/man for it. That any men trying to foist dick on lesbians are condemned as the creeps/rapists they are. That the privacy, dignity, opportunities, contributions, thoughts, feelings, safety, agency, and humanity of women and girls are treated as things worthy of respect and consideration, and prioritized adequately. That petty tyrants who believe they have the right/power to dictate what other people are allowed to think, feel, and perceive are recognized and condemned for what they are.

The more realistic but still optimistic endgame? That women are able to recover the spaces, services, and words that have been taken from us. That the backlash isn't successfully steered into forcing us back into a position of being men's property and confined to the home and domesticity, with no resources, no bodily autonomy, no vote, no voice, no rights.

Ideal endgame for me would be everyone realizing that this is harmful rhetoric and no one needing to transition. People getting therapy. There being just men and women and nothing in between gender wise. Normal pronouns.

Pretty much what you said.

REPEAL THE GRA!

thats my end game I used to have some sympathy for some mentally ill men who had their todger lopped off and got a certificate to prove it, to say their were less dangerous to women because they rendered themselves unable to rape. that is exactly what a GRC is and that's all it is.

but now I see GRCs as a foot in the door for eroding womens rights, we do not even have parity with mens rights how bloody dare they try to chip away at what we have, what I have learned over the last few years is that womens rights are no different to class struggle, those with power are always trying to chip away at them and we must always be vigilant and never stop fighting for our rights and fighting against any sneaking attempts to chip them away.

At this point I’d be happy with just single sex prisons. And by single sex prisons I mean single sex. No exceptions, no using women as human shields for men who are deemed vulnerable to violence by other male inmates. SINGLE SEX

Consenting adults can do what they like with their bodies, even if I don't agree with it.

I would actually like to see all cosmetic surgery heavily restricted as the expression of self hatred and waste of medical resources that it truly represents.

Also we don't allow surgeons to create near-permanent UTIs for any other reason. We don't allow surgeons to cosmetically amputate other organs. If I wanted to be footless and go on disability, is it really enough that I'm simply a "consenting adult"?

As for gender stuff, for it to fall out of fashion and see the reversal of such human rights violations as sex desegregated prisons

• The recognition that while appearance is mutable, sex is not.
• Sex-based rights for women upheld in law.
• No taxpayer-funded coverage for gender reassignment surgeries.
• No cross-sex hormones or surgeries for minors.

And honestly just to stop expecting women to sacrifice for everyone else. To not be told to give up our communities, our language, our boundaries, and our identities to men.

Nobody should ever have been allowed to falsify sex data on any government records or identity documents. That was a serious mistake that now needs to be corrected. All the false documents now need to be corrected too. I don't care if losing something they never had any right to take hurts the feelings of men pretending to be women. I'm done being "nice" or accommodating special privileges for men.

Mine is basically the exact same as yours. In every state, every country, sex should trump gender every time. Idgaf what you call yourself, but no one should be allowed to compel my speech and force me to lie. I will NOT lie about someone's sex, and it should be illegal to force me to do so in the workplace, while shopping, etc

For me, the fastest solution is lots and lots of class lawsuits from TIPs who were permanently harmed by drugs and surgery. When the general public see how many people have had their lives permanently altered for the worse, this will have a huge impact on general public opinion. Transitioning will no longer be seen as harmless. Insurance companies will refuse to cover doctors who perform surgeries or prescribe cross-sex hormones.

The strongest pushback at present is coming from the trampling of women's sports. This is such an obvious outrage that even normies with no interest in feminism are calling bullshit. As much as it will hurt in the short term, I hope that the next one or two Olympics are an absolute farce. That's what it will take to turn the tide long term.

There are always going to be weirdos who brew oestrogen in their bathtub or run DIY castration operations from their garden sheds - probably can't stop it all. But these drugs and surgical interventions shouldn't be available either to buy as purely aesthetic body modification, or as healthcare, in the same way limb removal and intentional blinding for BIID, or consensual cannibalism is not possible. I would be happy with this being extended to the most egregious plastic surgery like BBLs. It is not right that in a time where we are so concerned about waste, ecological destruction, elderly and social care that we would waste precious medical resources to create lifelong patients out of physically healthy people. It's disgustingly wasteful.

The other side of the coin is the legal recognition of sex and transgender identity. In my own country I think the Gender Recognition Act needs to be repealed. I was hostile to it before but since reading through the commentary and rationale at the time it is actually mind-boggling how stupid and incoherent it is as a piece of legislation. Maybe people will be less willing to build their entire identity on a trans framework if they are told in no uncertain terms that society will not bend to their desires or delusions.

Everything you mention sounds completely reasonable to me. It’s hardly asking for the moon on a stick, and isn’t even asking for any new rights, just legal confirmation of our existing rights as women.

It’s only “unreasonable” if you truly believe TWAW, and I doubt that most people actually believe that, it’s just a nice slogan to mindlessly repeat. I doubt that even most TIMs believe it, and (I think, although know lots of you disagree) it’s helpful when TIMs like Debbie Hayton and Blaire White clearly state that.

I would like trans individuals to be treated as such: You either have gender dysphoria or AGP and should be treated for your mental disorder with some combination of medication and therapy.

I think gender affirmation surgery should be banned.

Anyone with either of these diagnoses should not be allowed to work with minors.

I want the rights of women and girls to our own spaces and activities protected, child transition banned, adult transition seen as a lifestyle choice (tolerated but not privileged), I want the word “gender” to describe things about grammar and culture only. I want kids to grow up thinking of it as one of those stupid and terrible things people used to do, like drink water out of lead pipes.

I also want therapists and doctors who subjected children (especially children) and trauma survivors, or people with internalised homophobia to surgery and the harms of exogenous hormones and puberty blockers for this harebrained theory to be at the very least sued for malpractice, or maybe prosecuted.

I want the celebrity trans, especially the AGP tantrum-throwers, to become objects of ridicule, pity, and eventually no interest at all to the media machine they are currently surfing in triumph.

No sexual fetish on public display. Correct pronouns for all. Correct single sex space use. No state funded transition treatments. No more ‘her penis’. Correct recording of crimes. No more legal fictions in passports and birth certificates. No transition of minors - plenty of psychological help instead. No more ‘pregnant people’ or ‘1 in 100 people will undergo the menopause’. Sex is binary and based on gamete production. Gender restricted to grammar!

Single sex spaces and no men allowed to take opportunity from women by putting on a skirt or getting a surgery.

Not having voluntary cosmetic surgery be paid for by the public or government in any way. Regulations around who can perform and receive these surgeries. I would prefer a ban altogether but that wouldn't work out.

No expectation for anyone to support anyone else's gender delusions if they don't want to, and no repercussions for refusing.

Acknowledgement that biological sex exists and matters, as well as being the basis for the oppression of women.

No changing sex on any official documents such as birth certificates.

Absolutely ban medically transing kids in any way. Parents transing their children socially should be seen as abuse.

Ideally, trans people would be medically identified as having extreme body dismorphia and possibly other diagnoses like Personality Disorders and there would be widely available evidence based treatment for those patients. Society would uniformly recognize this as a mental illness and everything from public bathrooms to sports would reflect that male and female sexes need separate accommodations. Cross dressers would be arrested if found using women’s restrooms and sentenced to therapy the same way violent people must go to anger management classes. Anyone claiming their child is trans would lose custody.

Only after political leaders of all parties apologize for stomping on women's rights and admit that they failed to listen to women in their countries will the endgame be close. If this never happens then it will be full on oppression.

Protect our rights, single sex spaces/groups, no forced language, no transitioning under 18-25 until brain matures, and they should not be able to change names to hide that they committed crimes. Or if they do, their original name should always follow in parenthesis (eg. in dating to prevent future victims).