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QuestionDrawing tips?
Posted February 19, 2024 by RegularFeminist in ArtsAndYarns

Right now I think I can't draw, but I want to be able to learn to sketch plants and travel places. I don't really want to learn to draw pictures that look like photos. What I want to learn is to draw simplified things that I like. Recently I started doing this - choose one random object and draw it either from life of from a picture on the Internet.

So I have some questions, would be happy if you shared some thoughts.

  1. When I draw from life, sometimes I can't compartmentalise the object into simple shapes. Are there any tools that can help me master this skill of dividing a complex object into simple shapes?

  2. Is it really useful to copy 2-d pictures? What I mean is that when I copy someone's picture, the work of simplifying is already done for me, so it feels like cheating.

  3. Can I actually become better at drawing, by simply drawing one thing at a time, without reading too much theory? Or is it a road to nowhere?

  4. Currently I try to draw different things and objects: a mug, a ring, a plant, a cat carrier etc - each day it's a different thing. Should I keep doing this or maybe it's better to choose one thing and draw it over and over again, so I can see the progress?

  5. Any other tips/suggestions? Considering that I can easily dedicate 10-20 minutes daily to drawing, but not more.

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VasilisaFebruary 27, 2024

This is a bill that purports to protect children from online exploitation (good! if only!) but sneaks in words that are absolutely shocking. Here is is, talking about “hate crimes”:

320.‍1001 (1) Everyone who commits an offence under this Act or any other Act of Parliament, if the commission of the offence is motivated by hatred based on race, national or ethnic origin, language, colour, religion, sex, age, mental or physical disability, sexual orientation, or gender identity or expression, is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for life.

And “hate” is defined as

hatred means the emotion that involves detestation or vilification and that is stronger than disdain or dislike; (haine)

This can be used to punish and harass women in so many ways. I feel I’m practically “back in the USSR”. What next? Siberia? Gulag?

I think we’ll have a jolly good time meeting one another in prison, dear Canadian Ovarites. Personally, I am well past the zone of mere “dislike”, and well into “detestation” …and I think many of you are, too. And how can you NOT detest the TIMs? Today as I was reading about the “chest feeding” I felt myself sinking into the very red zone of “vilification”.

It will not take long for this bill, if enacted in its current form, to start making victims. Imprisonment for life! Not for pedophiles, murderers, serial killers, but for detesting TIMs.

Lipsy•____•February 27, 2024

Is it retroactive? Asking for a certain prime minister who did blackface once

VasilisaFebruary 27, 2024

No such luck 🤨

SatanicPanicFebruary 27, 2024

This is literally a bill against thought crimes and personal feelings. How the fuck they gonna make hatred illegal? I can hate whoever I want as long as I don't hurt them. Hatred and detestation are my right. No one deserves my favor.

[Deleted]February 27, 2024

You have to remember that this is hatred as defined in a legal sphere. It isn't making "hatred" illegal. It's looking to bolster already existing hate crime legislation in Canada. A hate crime is one of extremism that advocates for or enacts violence against an identifiable group of people in the public sphere (including online).

In your personal, everyday life, you can hate as much as you want. You can share how much you hate a specific group in private conversation whether it is in person or through messaging apps. You cannot, however, openly declare and promote that hate through public channels (e.g., on TV or radio, on social media, hosting rallies) with the intent to spread that hatred in a way that promotes violence and extremism.

Examples of hate crimes: antisemitic rallies, neo-Nazi parades, advocating for the death of a specific group of people on TV.

In terms of online, most hateful comments are passed over. You need to show evidence of radicalization and extremism to violence to be on the monitor list of cyber security organizations. Source: close contact who works in anti-terrorism.

thesnorkmaidenFebruary 27, 2024

Canada already has serious hate speech laws - this is just extending them specifically to the online sphere (and seemingly increasing punishment for them to a crazy degree). The real problem, and danger to us, is the potential interpretation of the definition of hate and the bs inclusion of gender identities on the protected groups list.

[Deleted]February 27, 2024

The punishment is way too extreme,

I'm gay, and the amount of men who try to say otherwise to try and bolster their chances(?), is enough to make me a rich woman if it were a nickel toll,

Does that insinuate that those men are now risking jail time?

Or,

Can we flip it back on the T, have me accuse a transwoman for disrespecting my sexual orientation?

Or is the rest of the community tacked on as an afterthought, and this only pertains to tendie gendies?

[Deleted]February 27, 2024(Edited February 27, 2024)

Some clarification on what is outlined in the Bill and what constitutes a "hate crime" in Canada

From the Bill:

For greater certainty — content that foments hatred (3) For greater certainty and for the purposes of the definition content that foments hatred, content does not express detestation or vilification solely because it expresses disdain or dislike or it discredits, humiliates, hurts or offends.

Current definition of a hate crime:

Hate crimes are criminal acts done by a person who is motivated by an extreme bias or hatred towards a particular social group (CRRF 2020). Hate crimes may be directed at physical, symbolic targets (such as a mosque) or at individuals or groups of people.

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/cj-jp/victim/rd16-rr16/p1.html#:~:text=Hate crimes are criminal acts,individuals or groups of people.

In order to protect the public from extreme forms of hate speech, the Criminal Code also contains four hate propaganda offences:

advocating or promoting genocide against an identifiable group (subsection 318(1));

inciting hatred against an identifiable group in a public place that is likely to lead to a breach of the peace (subsection 319(1))

“Identifiable group" is a defined term in the Criminal Code (subsection 318(4)); wilfully promoting hatred against an identifiable group other than in private conversation (subsection 319(2));

wilfully promoting antisemitism by denying, condoning, or downplaying the Holocaust (subsection 319(2.1));

VasilisaFebruary 27, 2024

It would be nice if private conversations were excepted, but they too can have profound consequences. I offer the following scenario: I talk to someone and express a “hateful” opinion towards TIMs (which may be that I’m not 100% fawning and validating). That someone disagrees with me and makes a complaint to whoever has power over me. For some professions, even a whiff of “transphobia” is sufficient to lose one’s job, to have one’s life completely destroyed.

[Deleted]February 27, 2024(Edited February 27, 2024)

That scenario wouldn't be defined as a "hate crime" in law because it is not a crime or promoted a crime, it took place in private conversation, and it did not lead to any sort of violence or extremism against TIMs.

Even if you said in private: "I hate all X because they're ABC and they all deserve to have their heads cut off," that's still not a hate crime or hate speech.

If you took to the radio or TV or formed a rally in which you advocated for X group to be decapitated and touted your hatred for them and encouraged hatred from others, then that could constitute a hate crime. Even that the court would have to prove that you promoted that hatred (i.e. it wasn't a preconceived belief of those listening) and that the hatred you stated had the potential to or actually did disrupt the peace (such as incite violence, theft, destruction of property against a specific targeted group.)

WegotthebeatFebruary 28, 2024

How is “violence” defined, hopefully in a commonsensical way and not a “my feelings were hurt” kind of way

[Deleted]February 28, 2024

The Bill defines it as:

content that incites violence means content that actively encourages a person to commit — or that actively threatens the commission of — an act of physical violence against a person or an act that causes property damage, and that, given the context in which it is communicated, could cause a person to commit an act that could cause

(a) serious bodily harm to a person;

(b) a person’s life to be endangered; or

(c) serious interference with or serious disruption of an essential service, facility or system.‍

WegotthebeatFebruary 27, 2024

320.‍1001 (1) Everyone who commits an offence under this Act or any other Act of Parliament, if the commission of the offence is motivated by hatred based on race, national or ethnic origin, language, colour, religion, sex, age, mental or physical disability, sexual orientation, or gender identity or expression, is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for life

Lipsy•____•February 27, 2024

what the fuck