Has anyone read this book yet? I'd love to discuss it.
WARNING: SPOILERS AHEAD INCLUDING IN COMMENTS.
There is no way to talk about this book meaningfully without completely spoiling it since it's a huge mystery where all the answers are at the very end of the story.
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I found this book frankly horrible and somewhat unhinged. As of July 2023, it has an average rating of 4.1 on Goodreads.
As details about Vivek are uncovered, I was fine with gay (or bisexual) and feminine. But as soon as the author talks about dresses and makeup, I was like, here we go. I know we're going to go there. And we did. He is non-binary, though he isn't called that specifically; he has a feminine name and wants to be referred to as he, she, or they. Woe is the genderless child!
I absolutely hate the scene of Vivek's death in the market. So, everybody thinks he was lynched for being a feminine man, but the truth is that he simply tripped and hit his head on the concrete? Osita is keeping this to himself why exactly? Just to make a martyr story? I don't understand. I am not a parent, but I'd rather know that my child died from an accident rather than beaten to death by an angry mob.
Also, Vivek was sick when he was young. I felt that the book implied that identifying as NB (in secret) healed him from his seizures and whatever mental condition he is implied to have (my guess is schizophrenia). His friends tell his mom (after his death) that wearing dresses and makeup made him less sick, that's why he looked healthier in the months before his death. Umm... OK... didn't know the cure for seizures and schizophrenia was wearing your friend's mom's old dresses and eyeliner...
I'm fine with some sex in my popular media, it's a part of life after all, but why was there so much of it here? All of these kids were just fucking each other, it was very creepy and strange. I hated the scene where Osita and Juju were in Juju's bedroom mourning Vivek's death. This was the first time I questioned what the hell I was reading, since things were mostly uneventful up until this point. I'm reading it, like, please don't have sex, please for the love of God don't have sex. They fell asleep crying. Yay!... Nope. They wake up and have sex. And then they imagine Vivek is... ... ... with them? During... sex? They both imagine him having sex with them while they're having sex. Like, a threesome. I mean, what the actual fuck is going on? Then there's these chapters were we get Vivek's POV (mostly posthumous), and the chapter after this bizarre one was Vivek like, watching down on them and enjoying it. Then the story just moves on like I didn't just read a pervy ghost happily watching his two best friends fuck while crying over him.
I know why this book is so popular with a certain demographic, but an average rating of 4.1 from 53K ratings? Are you serious?... If you look on 1- and 2-star reviews on Goodreads, you can see that some people with sense are even woke and say okay I'm loving the representation but what in the fresh hell did I just read? Why are there so few of these people? This book was really so weird and bad, the payoff was awful. At least it wasn't long, I guess.
If you think it's weird that I haven't mentioned the incest, it's just because I don't know what the hell to even say about it. I don't get why Osita had to be Vivek's cousin at all.
I actually have not gotten into her. I had her first book on my list for awhile. I just got Novik's Deadly on my Libby last night. And i am about half way through The Voice by Le Guin.
I'm not particularly sure by what you mean by 'flat.' But, too much worrying about being perfectly accurate when you are writing fantasy is crazy. I mean big things, like GRRM not knowing how long it takes to get a fire going on, is sad and distracting. But, details of folktales--- folktales that are subverted by many authors... what is the point?
I do kind of worry. For something i am writing, i choose all biblical or Hebrew names and base their personalities and actions largely on their names. So if i am told i am not allowed to use them it's gonna change everything. I wasn't going to do too much religious stuff initially, but i do want to set up one of the countries as a theocracy now. I think i actually sort of figured out what i am going to do for the 3rd act miscommunication tho.
How long does it take to get a fire going? (The prospect of knowing more than GRRM is tempting.)
Around 20 mins. It depends of course. That's even with a lighter and fuel.
Thanks! How long does it take GRRM's characters, then? I don't suppose they have lighters.🤔
No they don't. In the first Cat chapter she starts a full on fire in order to burn a letter.