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Long time Buffy fans probably know Carpenter got shafted after she told Whedon she was pregnant during Angel, and her character was dumped into a coma. I'm glad she's talking about it and sad to see her costars dealt with trauma and fallout for many years. Michelle Trachtenberg's comment on her time on Buffy was particularly troubling.
I thought Emma Caufield might speak up but then I remembered she's attached to Wandavision. I think that's the same studio Whedon directs for? I'm not great with mainstream superhero stuff.
So sad to see this as an outcome of a show that was meant to be about female empowerment.
He’s not allowed in a room alone with Michelle again.
That sentence really haunts me.
again
Hits me right in the chest. I want to protect that girl she was. I'm so sad for her.
This has brought back memories of him talking about why they expanded Dawns role beyond the one season where her character made sense. He was complimenting her acting ability, I thought, but now I’m wondering was he just ensuring he’d have further access for inappropriate behaviour? What a fucking creep.
That is just so beyond creepy.
Apparently Anthony Stewart Head---the guy that played Giles----had no idea this was going on, because Whedon would act different around the male cast.
Yeah, this has been an open secret in the Buffy fandom for a long time. Quite a few Buffy fans have disliked Joss Whedon for various creepy, misogynistic, or arrogance issues since around the time that Angel started, honestly. It's been a difficult thing to comes to terms with because I do feel that Buffy is a very important moment in women's history, corny as that may sound. She was a big influence on an entire generation of young women, and showed that female-led franchises can be popular and acclaimed. I had to learn to separate the art from the artist (as best as you can watching your favorite characters shrink in size over the seasons...) long ago, especially considering I think of Sarah Michelle Gellar, Charisma Carpenter, Alyson Hannigan, etc. first when I think of Buffy, not Joss. I won't let him ruin their acclaim.
I won't let him ruin their acclaim.
Same. I fell into Buffy backwards. It was on when I was in college and had no tv. I got into Dr. Horrible's Sing-along Blog, then Much Ado About Nothing, then into Buffy/Angel around ten years ago. I read about the open secrets around that time, and I remember fairly recently when his ex came out against him. It's not surprising that more women are speaking out more vocally, and it's great that Carpenter did this in support of an actor. I haven't heard about any of the men from Buffy/Angel standing up for the women, but I may have missed something.
Anthony Head, J. August Richards, and James Leary (Clem) have expressed their support. David Boreanaz is suspiciously silent.
Thanks for this. I appreciate all the good news people are bringing to this thread.
Emma Caufield kinda said something: https://www.cbr.com/wandavision-emma-caulfield-joss-whedon-statement/
Thanks. I'm biased toward her because I love her, and I understand people are shackled by their jobs sometimes.
I don't think Whedon's doing much for Marvel (which is in charge of WandaVision) anymore.
I was waiting for Whedon to be cancelled after his ex wife Kai Cole spoke out about his duplicity a few years ago but all I heard was crickets.
Disney stood by Whedon when he was revealed to be a scumbag who abused his wife, abused actresses, and banged barely legal fangirls at conventions. But at least Disney did away with the menace of Beep-Boop Carrano!
I am sadly not surprised.....i have suspected that Whedon was no feminist, and was a creep for a long time. I am glad these women are speaking up, and are pretty much being believed. Sadly, it was Ray Walker speaking up that really made people listen. i feel like a lot of men that go on and on about how they are a feminist, are no friends to women. In fact, sometimes I think the best "feminist" men are the ones that allow women to have their space and don't try to claim the lable for themselves. The only exception to this I can think of is Patrick Stewart---but he doesn't act like Joss Whedon and was speaking up against domestic violence because his dad was abusive to his mom....that is different then Whedon's "i write stories about strong women" type of feminism.
Sadly, Ray Fisher's racism accusations were given more clout than Gal Gadot's complaints against him because racism is something that impacts men. Whedon would still be getting away with his shit if he had just stuck to abusing females
Ray Fisher. Not trying to nitpick, just trying to make sure credit goes where credit is due.
I don't know how he convinced people he was a feminist for so long.
I think all he did was declare it, honestly.
He was a proto-liberal feminist, he "identified" as a feminist, and people just went with it.
I think it was because he wrote shows with interesting female characters....however during that time there was a lot of them. Xena, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. Babylon 5 and I am sure there are more. Sam Raimi and the directors of the other shows though didn't say they where feminists every 3 seconds though.
Thats what always rubbed me the wrong way about Wheadon. Lots of men have written interesting female characters without patting themselves on the back for it. It annoyed me to see him act as if he's the only man capable of writing decent, "feminist" female characters
I am sure the guy that wrote Riply from Alien didn't go on and on about how awesome he was for writing a female character, and she was way better then Buffy.
He was never feminist, he just had some excellent female writers and producers that helped guide him in the right direction. Of course he gets all the credit for writing "such strong and believable female characters."
Yeah great point, it was really the writers he hired that wrote the characters anyway. A lot of the former Buffy writers went on to write for the show Grimm--and that also had some good female characters, without the weird Whedonisms.