
That poor girl. It reminds me of a similar post where an AGP father was pestering his daughter to go shopping together, and when they finally did he pressured her to try on clothes in the same changing room and threw a tantrum when she was rightfully creeped the fuck out.
Also this ‘second puberty’ shit is so mind numbingly absurd. Puberty is not a grown ass adult flooding their endocrine system with synthetic opposite sex hormones, and doing so does not give grown ass adult men a pass to act out their pornified fantasies of girlhood.
Agree. Also, puberty sucks. I don’t think any woman would want to relive her puberty years. It’s a scary time where men become bolder in their harassment. Your body is changing and you’re taught that your changes are dirty and shameful. Acne, hormones, growing breasts, periods, growth spurts. It’s all so stressful.
I think it’s really telling that these TIMs sexualize puberty in girls so much. Pedos.
Pure crap, that argument that he is going through the puberty as he couldn't do it the first time round. IF that was the case, he would have started redoing his early childhood and so on.
It's AGP and he is failing dreadfully as a father here, violating his daughter's boundaries, interacting with her in a sexual way which is extremely inappropriate, and being a total selfish shit. I feel like experts in child abuse should be called in, to be honest.
Its such bullshit. Lots of people have lost out on their childhood for various reasons. But most of them don't cope by forcing their children to help them relive their childhood fantasies.
He's using his daughter as part of his sexual fetish. It's incest. Its pedophilia.
Don't worry he's not a creep, he's just going through a "second puberty"
TV and movies really form cultural ideas about adolescence. Don't see why watching a ton of high school movies and TV shows geared toward teens wouldn't be sufficient--that is, for those who believe this is "second puberty." I think we here know why that's not enough.
He watched too many movies and now he believes that being a teenage girl means having lingerie pillow fights, shopping for bras&panties in groups, sharing makeup tips, and constantly discussing our periods.
I'm still pretty new into transition myself, and can see how someone can get swept up in all of the new previously "forbidden fruit" of being a girl, but it'll calm down. She might just need that little nudge letting her know what type of girl you are, and what makes you uncomfortable.
This asshole is her FATHER!! He should already know what type of girl his daughter is!! If he's not aware of the fact this his daughter isn't a 24/7 glitter princess, than I'm guessing that he was never very involved in raising her until he saw an opportunity to use her as a prop in his teenage girl fantasies.
She has asked me what it was like when I got my first period. She has asked me how long my period lasts for and what its like. She has also asked me about bras and about my boobs which I found very weird
EEEWWWWW!!!!
As a kid, I would have been uncomfortable even if my MOTHER asked these questions! If my father had asked them, I probably would have called the fucking cops. This is sexual abuse!!
Sometimes these kinds of post gets removed from archive.org, so here’s an alternative just for posterity.
This man is skinwalking his daughter, which is horrifying. The comments basically forcing her to reaffirm his identity are so fucking creepy. She already said she affirms his identity, but they sense the bad red flags of this situation and feel the need to first reaffirm it like some bad brainwashing. It’s disgusting. No one is reading what she’s actually saying.
This post needs a billion trigger warnings not just for the girl’s story, but the comments as well. So gross. Like, no her dad isn’t going through puberty. Yes it’s incredibly inappropriate the way he’s asking. It’s telling no one said that this a conversation for her mom.
I feel so bad. She probably just wants quality time with her dad which is hard enough for any child, much less a teen girl and he keeps projecting his interests on her. And they're all telling her to have a serious talk to him as if the power imbalance doesn't go crazy there. She should tell her mom and maybe a trusted aunt too.
The fact that this pervert is asking his 14 yo daughter details about her breasts and bra size makes me want to reach through my screen and commit actual, literal violence.
Not "terfy violence" but the actual kind. Fucking MALE.
Oh my God. Can someone with a Reddit account send her an invite code? I feel terrible seeing so many commenters ignoring that her fucking father is getting off on her discomfort and pain. If you ever see this, kid, that is NOT normal and your parents should prioritize your safety (including emotional and psychological safety) and wellbeing and not push their bull shit onto you. No matter what anyone says, he is your father and he is acting inappropriately.
Not sure whether anyone will be able to persuade her? She does seem very entrenched in it all. I could try but not sure what to say to her? Also I don't have enough level to make invite codes so could you send me one and I'll pass it on to her?
I can’t stand that all of these LOSERS are commenting to a 14 year-old girl who is clearly in a demented and dangerous place with her “dad” that she needs to “set boundaries” 😑 how much do you think it’s going to go over for a 14 year-old telling her mother or father how to treat her? Maybe you had coddling, push over parents who let you run the show but I didn’t and I would imagine most kids couldn’t dictate their parents’ behavior at that age either. She says multiple times it makes him angry, anyway.
It’s a harrowing feeling when you’re young and you realize somethings not right about your parents but you’re so reliant on them still that you can’t fully comprehend it or do anything about it. That’s clearly the place this girl is in. She’s already in pacify him, protect him tip toe around him mode… even if you bought into the BS you shouldn’t find his behavior acceptable and the advice to her should be to coordinate a way with her mother or the court system or “being so busy” or WHATEVER to spend way less time with “dad” until he gets over his manic early trans coming out phase wherein he clearly wants to harvest his daughter for arousal fodder.
This poor girl! She should just be able to say what she would most likely say to her mom, which is, "Uh, no. That's weird"
The fact that her father is using her as his conduit into "girlhood", which UGH, makes me feel so sorry for her. He needs less visitations if he's going to be a creep with his daughter. Asking her about periods?? Girls don't always want to even talk to their moms about that! He can't possibly love her if he's willing to put her in such an uncomfortable position.
What a selfish prick. Your daughter is 14 years old, a full personality with likes and dislikes, and your'e so self-centered that yo've never realized that she isn't into the "girly" shit you think is a vital part of girlhood?? It's right in front of his face and yet his fetish is forcing her to be who she's not just so he can live vicariously through her...??? I feel so bad for her.
Good on the mom for putting a kibosh on the calling him "Mom" thing! The fucking nerve. They might not have sympathy, morals, or selfless bones in their body, but they will always have an excess of fucking nerve.
throw the whole dad out and start again
hopefully she has some kind male relative or teacher figure (not that you NEED it of course, but if her mom wants a good male role model, she better start interviewing bc this sperm donor certainly is not it)
Oh, the replies. This poor girl. This is so disgusting. She's gonna figure this out one day. She should have come here, not reddit. Oh, jeez.
I’m alittle happy that her parents are separated. So she has an out from this perverted behaviour
These posts always sound like troll posts because of how outrageous they are
The fact that all the TIMs find it believable is chilling
This almost sounds like grooming.
She also has asked me a few questions about puberty and has asked me slightly uncomfortable questions about my period. I don't know how to tell her that these things are making me uncomfortable without upsetting her and while still affirming her gender.
That poor teenager. Her pornsick dad wants to be affirmed... 🤡 As an official clown
You could also still go shopping with her for example but preface it that you want things that fit your style and self expression, not stereotypical girl things because that’s not who you are.
Oh my, the brunt of advice is to walk on eggshells around the TIM and do tons of emotional labor to boot hurt the Precious feefees of her bio father who is living a second adolescence ☠️😫😑
I wish somebody would tell that poor girl to tell her mother all this, especially the body and puberty comments. Her mom sounds like she's done with this shit especially after he wanted the kid to call him mom. The mom would totally be able to help her daughter spend less time with him.
It makes me sick how this child is gaslighted into walking on eggshells and bending to her father's fetish.
As a mother of three daughters this makes me so, so sad for that young girl.
And SO, SO angry at that pos father.
I wish that girl could know about Ovarit, so that she could get some REAL advise and support.
They really think all women come with a Standard Female Skill Set. I'm far from being a tomboy, but I would be totally useless at teaching makeup and I've got about one hour of clothes shopping in me before I feel like screaming.
This. And even if the daughter did happen to be an expert make up artist at 14, she still isn’t going to know how to cover up a 40yo man’s stubble and male jawline to his liking - no wonder she’s so uncomfortable and nervous around him! Glad mom seems to be mostly sane in all this.
And remember, Dad's going to be talking in a fake high pitched voice. Fakery is unsettling.
Exactly. It just fits in with the pattern of other TiMs laying their issues at the feet of women and girls who aren't equipped to deal with them, and don't want to.
Also, god forbid a divorced dad spend time focusing on his daughter's needs :/
One hour? That's impressive, I last about a quarter of an hour.
Like I said, I'm far from being a tomboy 😂
I'm proudly in haven't worn makeup in 10+ years gang. Don't even know how to use concealer- everyone's getting an eyeful of my pores and scars, and nobody cares!
I kind of think they don't care? I'm honestly not sure if my terrible makeup skills or lack of makeup is "worse".
Same with me. I'm not exactly a tomboy. But I never learned how to do makeup beyond basic lipstick and using concealer to cover the occasional blemish. Mainly because I HATE the way my face feels when I have a bunch of crap on it. Even before COVID, I probably wore makeup less than five times a year. But, somehow, I remain a woman despite this!
Oh, me too. My eyes really hate eye makeup. I can do lipstick and mascara for a wedding, but that's about it.
I very much hope you ladies are also PMing this girl. What a sickening mixture of misogyny and parentification.