So I tried another group a women recommended to me from the last one. The turn out was huge. About 30 women, but I noticed only 4-5 women identified as lesbian. The rest were some mix of alphabet soup.
We went to an arcade and then a winery. There were two damn Tim's! One of them looked so bad and I guess they showed up alone. No one talked to them and they left early. I was so glad.
The next Tim from a distance looked female. They had breast implants and what looked to be jaw surgery, but I could tell by their hands and Adam's apple. There's also always this weird feeling that something is just off about these Tim's. Anyway, once again I tried to ignore their table, but they came over to talk to us.
I found it hilarious how the butch lesbians didn't entertain them at all. They moved over to another table immediately XD. The Tim just ignored them, but it was an all night thing of me sliding to other tables/groups to avoid them. Besides that it was a nice night. I got two numbers.
A lovely lady walked me to my car and I asked her "Does it annoy her that men show up?" She said "oh you mean the transwomen? It's fine as long as they keep to themselves" 🙄
No! They need to gtfo! This is why they keep showing up. I just stayed quiet because I was nervous I'd be kicked from group. The other group that removed the Tim hasn't planned anything since. I feel like crap for not speaking up. It seems like no one is going to say anything until one of these Tim's gets pissed and hurts us
The worst part is, I'm sure they went home to Reddit to talk about how the lesbians in attendance "had no idea" they were men even though they totally did, but the social conditioning of women to be polite is incomprehensible to them.
Or if they were aware, how mean, discriminatory, bigoted and phobic they were.
Just like I’d say if I barged into a black space and they were less than welcoming, but still polite. And I were a racist narcissist.
That last part is important.
That sucks you had to play musical tables to get away from the men at a lesbian event.
If they came up to me in this context to get a date or hook up....I don't know what I'd do because I'd be so pissed off. If I actually spoke up, would the TIMs lodge a complaint to remove me from this group? If I'm not removed and they are, will they lodge a complaint with FB or what ever server is hosting the group and have them removed for transphobia? I think you probably did the best think possible, ignore and avoid. If the whole group feels the same way then they won't come back. I think what would be worse is having handmaidens in the group asking why we are being so mean....I'd leave if that happened.
Removed from group and called a transphobe is most likely. I worry about the police getting involved.
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They advertised as LGBTQIA+. The women who recommended them said they have big turn outs and it was pretty fun
Men just have an energy that's soo identifiable. You can always tell when someone is a trans identifiable man because they never pass, but aside form just appearance they will always have an energy that's overwhelmingly off-putting to lesbians. Why? Oh yeah, because we aren't attracted to men.
That's a really good point. It is some kind of aura or energy that we can just sense.
I hope things go well with the women you met. Despite the TIMs, sounds like the evening was a success.
"Keep to themselves" ....yeah that's the fucking opposite of crashing a meet up for w o m e n .
She tells herself that this opinion is "inclusive" and that she is not a terf. She has probably said many times that TWAW.
I fear for her.