I just watched this documentary on PBS. I was interested in seeing the bits that featured Alison Bechdel and other lesbian cartoonists. I found it quite difficult to watch what with the shoehorning of trans and all the talk of "queer", and the heavy focus on gay male -- which I don't have a problem with except when they claim to be representing all lesbians underneath "queer" and "LGBT" and the film assumes that all lesbians share that same value system. I, for one, do not.
I found parts of the film very frustrating -- the underlying value that all gay men and lesbians love being "queer", i.e. deviant, strange, abnormal... and that depicting graphic and "kinky" sex acts is somehow revolutionary? I don't think of myself as strange or abnormal or deviant and I resent the brazen use of this term applied to all lesbians without representing any other viewpoint. There was only a brief section at the beginning that mentioned feminism at all, barely any representation of feminist viewpoints. I assume because the filmmakers wouldn't want to accidentally touch any "TERFs" with a 10 foot pole. I wanted to find out some interesting history about gay and lesbian cartoonists and instead feel like I was just force-fed all this "queer" nonsense, and celebration of women disavowing their own bodies and femaleness in order to please the dominant narrative.
Just really tired of this... I really want to see Lesbians in media and documentaries who actually are willing to speak up with some self-respect. This doc made me feel really angry. Many on the filmmaking team are women. I wonder how many are actually lesbians, or just non-lesbian women deciding that they can represent lesbian stories while only speaking to lesbians with one specific male-supporting perspective.
I'm just sick of lesbian issues being included only in name under "queer" and "LGBT" so that these men and men-loving women can use our name to support their own agendas. Meanwhile actual lesbian history is ignored and erased, and docs like this contribute to that erasure. How frustrating!
Anyone watched this doc yet? What did you think?
Oh well thank god. Women are so underrepresented in Diesel Tech. Now finally the girls will have someone to look up to.
Did anyone pick up on his inclusion of “miss”? You’re giving the fetish away a little obviously even for a TIM, dude
Imagine this man sitting there getting a boner in class over the thought of your young daughter calling him "Miss"
Oh apparently it's a Diesel technology class I missed that part. So we can guess that last year he got more female students than he expected and now he's doing this shit so he can be like "Hey fellow women it sure is tough being a womanly woman in such a manly field? Why don't we all have lesbian sex about it later since we're all so oppressed by the men around here!"
i mean its probably for being addressed as a teacher. "miss penny" or whatever. just....ughhhh weird. im never bringing a child into this world regardless but stuff like this always makes me more confident in my decision
Yes, that is what it’s for, and all the pedo student/teacher porn he watches is probably a big part of why he’s doing this. The inclusion of “miss” is very fetishy
No woman goes by "Miss" usually it's thrown at us in a derogatory and patronizing way, which I'm sure he knows.
i had teachers that were miss? because they were unmarried and didnt like Mrs.
i would go by miss personally. i think its cuter and i dont want people to think im married.
I go by Ms. My marital status is irrelevant to my job.
doesnt ms denote marital status?
it's actually a common misconception that ms denotes marital status, especially amongst younger generations! some children i've met (and adults) actually think ms denotes that a woman has been divorced, but ms can be used for any woman who doesn't want to use miss or mrs. i've been a ms since i was 18.
'Ms' gives as much information as 'Mr'.
indeed! great explanation. i love your username btw, phryne fisher is an awesome character.
No. It's the neutral option in the US at least
Both Ms. & Miss are used for adult women in the Midwestern area I live in.
Yes, you can use either. Both are used. But they have different connotations from each other
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So this is why I got yelled at by an older male teacher for not referring to a younger female teacher as married when she never seemed to care (also how the fuck was I even supposed to whether she was married?? It never came up)
It's supposed to be Ms., though, not "Miss". The difference between the two, even though it only appears different in writing and not how they are pronounced, is that one refers to an unmarried woman, and the other is/was used to refer to very young women/teen girls and little girls. It's slowly being taken off of forms, I've noticed, so that only "Ms." and "Mrs." are left.
I suspect this man just didn't know the difference. Or if he does, he's doing the Dylan Mulvaney "girlhood" thing, lol.
even though it only appears different in writing and not how they are pronounced
I feel like I've noticed a slight pronunciation difference in some places (though I could be just imagining it), like Miss when spelled out is pronounced with a very sibilant 's' sound, and Ms. is more like Miz.
Eta: this is in places where there are both options for "title" on a form, "miss" for unmarried woman, and Ms. tends to get picked for older or divorced or unmarried or women who don't wish to advertised their marrital status.
Yeah, you're right sometimes there is a bit of a difference. Currently where I live I don't hear that word spoken aloud IRL because English is not the dominate language here, but now that I think about it I've heard the difference before, eps. on TV and in movies.
ohhhhh i see, thank you this makes much more sense. theres so many things about the female experience and language and history that i dont know, even being a woman, because of shit like this, and im learning that the more and more i browse here.
No problem! It's definitely an old-fashioned thing and I think it became a grievance probably before I was born but only started to change when I was a kid, so I didn't even notice it and yeah I did figure "miss" was kind of a kid thing but I didn't know grown women were being or had been called that so I kind of learned about that being an issue only a few years ago. Also seems to be an issue that isn't present in every language, so there's that as well.
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Ms. is definitely not rare where I live, and I don't think most people have any strong connotations with it. I don't, at least. I wouldn't assume a woman is specifically a feminist if she used Ms. for herself, I'd just think that's what she chose to go by, and she may or may not be married, which is not necessarily my business to know (the original purpose of using Ms.).
I have very neutral connotations associated with Ms. It's what I use for myself, on forms, since there aren't really other situations where I'm being formally addressed as Ms. Lastname, or even Ms. Firstname. I do pronounce it differently than Miss.
out of curiosity, I decided to look at the staff directory for a large local high school - there's about an equal mix of Mrs. and Ms., and a few teachers with Miss, though that's a minority. There's even one teacher whose title is listed as Dr. I also looked at the staff directory for a local elementary school to see if there was a difference. There, it seems like there might be slightly more Mrs. but still mixed in with others who go by Ms. No Miss though at that particular school.
Now that you mention it, I remember that Grace Lavery called his autobiography Please, Miss.
Sir, please leave everyone else out of your personal decisions. It literally has nothing to do with anyone else, let alone the kids you'll be teaching.
My AuThEnTiC SeLf
One of the Top 5 most annoying phrases they use.
Why did he decide to draw on sharpie eyebrows that don’t match his blonde hair? Lmao. Looking good, bud 😂
I suspect that's his own hair which he's colored. These creeps never wear short haired wigs.
His eyebrows are likely naturally dark, and he's now tweezed them and "defined" them with too much brow pencil.
Btw, cut the poor dude some slack! He's in his second puberty and is going to make mistakes!
ive heard a lot of them say they dig the blond hair black eyebrow look because its extra early 2000s celeb/pornstar aesthetic. like pink, britney spears, etc. super fem but in an unnatural way so they are able to duplicate it
Yeah who doesn't want a pornsick pig teaching their kids
I’m sure students of checks notes Diesel Technology will be very accepting.
I bet there was two girls in his class last year that had some kind of bond that he felt personally attacked by and excluded from and now he's doing this so that he never has to suffer the horror of women existing without considering his feelings again
she/her/miss
Miss. Snort. Apparently ma’am isn’t good enough anymore.
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Their real authentic selves involves going to the school bathroom with underaged girls in their class
oh god, teachers have separate bathrooms right??
Sometimes not, especially in secondary or trade schools.
I've never known of a school that didn't have separate bathrooms for staff.
My daughter might not protest her a lot of her poor working conditions, but she sure would protest if she had to use the kids' filthy bathroom!
I use a kids bathroom at my current job because all the staff bathrooms are in a different wing and I just don't always have the time to get down there.
Always that disgusting autogynesmile. Like they come out of factories.
He's got the smugness and dead eyes down pat, but his head tilt needs work.
I’m stealing autogynesmile!
i didn't come up with it but yeah lol. it's like a fucking trademark bingo on these assholes
Yeah wtf is that? Why do they all smile like that?
It's called "duper's delight" in pop psychology lol
Why? Because they're sexually aroused when the look at themselves in porn womanface.
Probably because their teeth are nasty from poor hygiene.