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If you have something to deal with TIMs and “transbians” please take it over to gender critical.
I want this space to grow more as a “normal” lesbian community where we discuss lesbian centered topics.
Yes I know the whole shit issue with the TIMs is our greatest topic right now because they are taking over our spaces and it’s relevant but that’s what the rest of this website is for.
I just want a lesbian space where we can clear our heads of that for once. Just once
TIMS have totally impacted lesbians to the point that they are erasing us, gaslighting and brainwashing young lesbians into thinking that lesbians want their dicks.
They have overtaken lesbian dating apps, preddit, social media, “lesbian” subs on preddit: everywhere.
They are erasing sex so that they can erase sexual orientation in order to call lesbians transphobia for not wanting to fuck them.
Where else can we discuss the tragic impact of TIMS on the lesbian community?
I want to keep this a place where we can discuss all facets of lesbian life, isn’t that the purpose of Ovarit Lesbians?
What is the point of a lesbian only circle otherwise?
I again am not disagreeing with anything you have said, I just wish we could also talk more about other facets of the lesbian community as discussing the bad parts, at least for me, leads to emotional fatigue. And considering we don’t have other lesbian spaces to just be lesbians and talk, it feels especially so
"Other facets of lesbian community". The TCult has been so successful in making sure lesbians don't get to experience "other facets" by (a) destroyng whatever community we have had, and (b) erasing the concept of lesbian and even lesbians themselves by lesbophobia and mysogyny so vicious that many of our sisters destroy their bodies and minds to escape it.
We are back to the 1940s-50 when there were no "other facets" - only a struggle to be lesbian at all, to find other lesbians and to be able to meet with each other away from men (and even women who are not themselves lesbian). Some people have criticized the first lesbian organization, Daughters of Bilitis, for just being centered around meeting socially. But that was a monumental feat back then. And it is worse now.
We can talk about anything but right now that includes figuring out, and sharing, how to legally have and keep spaces irl where we can meet and exclude anyone who is not a female homosexual. Us older lesbians failed our younger (not even born yet) lesbian sisters by escaping into careers/domestic life/political disengagement to make our lives all about "other facets", which allowed our community to collapse so easily when attacked. We figured the fight was over and we took the "other facets" for granted. But the fight is never over.
It is my deep hope that all lesbians be able to have joy in lives filled with "other facets". But we have to talk about the "trans" garbage and the creepy, rapey male predators calling themselves us. And we have to keep talking till we rise again to find a will and a way to exclude these men and take our community back.
I really can appreciate the emotional fatigue of dealing with those that want to erase us. It is exhausting and depressing. No one else but lesbians truly can understand what that feels like and how hard it is to deal with. I feel despair about all of it.
We can post about our relationships, our own community, family, movies/tv, anything that we like. It is so unfortunate that all things trans impact us everywhere that we turn.
I see where you're coming from. This is one of the few places we can vent about these issues without censored, so I think it's inevitable. However, it would be nice if there was a function to filter out men/trans/etc. Maybe we could start using flairs/tags?
My apologies. I can’t move it now but can take it down if needed. I’ve tagged it as NSFW. I’m sorry.
It wasn’t a rant towards you personally, I don’t want you to feel like I’m yelling at you.
This is just a trend I’ve been seeing overall
Not at all. I just realised I was the most recent to do so and wanted to apologise as on reflection I agree with you. I will put up anything similar in another circle next time.
Agreed.
I want to talk about being a lesbian in a community for lesbians, not men.
I get where you're coming from. I think the best solution would just be to have two circles because this is the only place we can actually rant about these things.
I just figured out there even is a lesbian centric circle on this site (from another comment) since it doesn't come up on the front page. (Same goes for "Women" general circle). So I hope to participate more and that more users sharing my blind spot figure it out too, and we'll have more to talk about.
I didn’t even consider that this might be harder to find on this site!
The main mod there too has little to no presence so that certainly doesn’t help
So I'm kind of on the fence about this. I also get tired of the constant focus on men in lesbian spaces. I want the focus to be about lesbians not men. But at the same time I want to be able to talk about issues that revolve around lesbians and often that has to do with men. Most other lesbian spaces won't allow talk about trans in any negative light, that's why we ended up here. So I don't feel great about telling lesbians they shouldn't talk about issues that involve men or transwomen.
I think there is some content that would fit better in gender critical, but at the same time when talking about stuff that affects lesbians specifically, I don't necessarily want a bunch of straight women giving their takes. If people post stuff here it's because they want to share it with other lesbians.
I would say make the content you want to see here. I don't think it's a bad thing to want less trans topics, but I don't think it's fair to tell others to make the space what you want it to be. Other people like having the freedom to talk about those issues here without being censored.
I understand and I am aware that in other spaces we are silenced in our opinions and that’s why so much talk is about men/trans.
I was silenced elsewhere as well and that is why I am here.
I can’t help but not vent my frustrations however, cause we have all of this space to talk about our pertinent issues with regards to the cult and men but so little spaces where it is more lighthearted and a breather from such talk.