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Sceptical about LBL/Comphet
For those who don't know yet LBL means latebloomer lesbian, sometimes it's also called later in life lesbian. They claim their late discovery is a result of compulsory heterosexuality. But I doubt they are genuinely gay or lesbian. They sound like closeted bisexuals.
When it comes to transgenders there are basically some very dysphoric kids who transition early. Before this huge increase in transgenders many of them were seriously evaluated. The main criteria for transgender was to be repulsed by your sex characteristics, there wasn't much of a focus on gender roles or identity.
I know of a TIM who transitioned since a child and he is still very GNC in clothing/demeanor but just hated the idea of having a penis and being socialized around boys. He is dinstinct in behavior from current transtrenders who often come out later in life, the male socialization always shows up...
My same sex attractions became already clear when I was 6 but I maintained an equal attraction to the opposite sex and in 2008, when I was 10/11 years old, I found out I am bisexual. This is still how I feel and I personally believe we know our sexual orientation in childhood but that we don't find the name for it unless we get some awareness.
Many of these so called LBL were once married to a man for years. They probably slept with him for years. During the dating process they must have decided that they were attracted enough to start a life with him. Them claiming to be lesbian all of the sudden in their 20s or 30s makes zero sense. The same with transtrenders.
But what is my issue with this? I have no problem with women supporting lesbian visibility in society. But this attitude, that you can take on any identity or label you want no matter how ridiculous it sounds in a specific situation, is probably also the reason why adult men feel so comfortable coming out as trans all of the sudden.
On top of that it pushes bisexual women to ID as lesbians when this is not accurate. Comphet signs are often signs of attraction. These women are confused or bisexual but not lesbians. Signs of sexual attraction start in childhood or early adolescence. They don't pop up all of the sudden when you are 30s.
This attitude could also lead to lesbians being told: "You didn't met the right guy yet" or when the faux lesbian suddenly becomes attracted to men while IDing as gay they send the message that orientations aren't permanent and real instead, they will instead be seen as flexibile, meaningless identities.
Also it would be great if bisexual women would accept themselves for who they actually are. Mononormativity and erasure are common, we're such a closeted group, less islation would be amazing. On top of that bisexuals wouldn't feel the need to lie about their actual orientation when it comes to dating a lesbian woman.
Exactly. And no one ever talks about it, no matter what awful thing happens. Islamic terrorists? "Complex geopolitical issues." Cop brutality? "Complex systemic racism issues." Mass shootings? "Complex gun laws and complex mental health issues."
It's a complex issue of some sort, but simple male violence is never a factor. Sure, those complex issues are real, but women suffer those same issues and we don't exercise violence anywhere near the same rates.
Yeah exactly. 'Mass shootings and violence are understandable; men are distressed by the difficult economy.' You know who else is distressed by the difficult economy, and more besides? Women.
Why can’t these young men do OnlyFans? Or other sex work? I mean they will get all that sec and attention they say women get so easily
Not to mention all the empowerment that comes with it!!!!! God knows if men need some of that sweet ego-boost that comes only with making yourself a sex object for others.
Thank you! Yes. It's ridiculous they exclude at least 50% of the human population when they say "people do this...xyz"
Every right-wing/anti-woke bro who comments on gender woo is happy to point out that women are physically smaller, slower, and weaker than men.
They virtually never comment on the fact that men are inherently more violent than women.
Its like the Muslim countries that say: "Men go into an animal frenzy if they see a woman's hair or ankle at the grocery store. Which is why men are the most suited for leadership and should be in charge of all major decisions because women are dumb and emotional".
I also saw a tweet that kind of goes along with this one, where men will congratulate themselves for not physically abusing a woman while breaking her spirit and emotionally abusing her at every turn.
I saw another tweet that was like men claim women are more emotional because men have successfully branded anger as ‘not an emotion.’ Sent it to my mom and she was like :-0
There's actually 7 of those exceptional carve-outs. Not just anger/wrath, but also envy, lust, pride, greed, gluttony, and sloth.
That's pretty clearly the whole point of reclassifying these canonically/stereotypically masculine excesses as "sins", n'est-ce pas?
...Oh-so-conveniently masking their true nature as extremes of EMOTION, and retcon-ing them as though they were things that you ••DO•• to excess. 🙄
The cover-up here is just so... shoddy. It's like the theologians were just phoning it in that day, and not even really trying LOL.
I mean, even the slightest attempt to cast these in the same light as other "sins" just makes the whole veneer fall away immediately.
Other sins are ACTS that you COMMIT—commit adultery, commit murder, commit blasphemy, etc etc bla bla bla. But, "commit anger"? "Commit sloth"? Yeah, nah. Those are just childhood emotions over which Women's mastery is assumed.
Yknow what I had never made the connection between the seven deadly sins and male behavior… I was raised in a conservative Protestant denomination and it’s fascinating coming of age and realizing that maybe men do need religion because for some reason they can’t act like decent people without outside strictures placed on their behavior.
yeah... imean, to be fair, it's clear enough that the longing for something transcendent is common to all of humanity.
Wherever there's no religious faith of some kind—whether on the level of a single individual, or on the institutional or tribal level—something else will VERY quickly swoop in to fill the vacuum. At best it'll be some type of genuine spirituality, at worst some woo-woo (like the gender quasi-religion of the current hour) or some narcissistic personality cult.
On the other hand,.. yes, the necessity of some type of metaphysics just to keep ppl in line does seem to be a primarily male need.
The Envy in particular is strong with these ones. The number of posts I have seen or videos of trans people I've watched where they're like "I can't stand to see cis women because I know they'll always be more pretty than me, I secretly hate them" It's a real bafflement to me to see the affirming comments like "u valid uwu" as if it's not just a man saying "I hate women" and having everyone cheer them on because of their magical lady feelz.
so much this. And not even just grown ass Women, either—they alws earn bonus creepy points for being so explicit about how the burning hateful envy starts with Girls who are only like... 12 or 13. Just through puberty.
All those Christian theologians were the most disgusting misogynists anyway, "woman is a temple built over a sewer," etc. etc.
Women are gross but somehow there's no spiritual problem with their own disgusting, unwashed hairy male butt holes.
You know it's a corrupt ideology when the priests start buying into it and giving it their blessing. One more tool in the belt to get access to vulnerable people and claim they're being "unfairly persecuted" because didn't you know priests are the most holy people on earth who just couldn't sin that way. They're so nice to everyone else in the parish, they couldn't possibly be guilty of objectifying women and children for their own sick sexual gratification.
Yeah. The same legacy lives on in modern medical terminology, too. Lots of choice terminology still in circulation here in the XXI century, like the pudendum and pudendal nerve (Latin "pudendum", literally "thing to be ashamed of")
"Vagina" might even be worse. I mean, you'd think that classical medicine would have at least mustered the equivalent of "birth canal" or something, but... uh... big #nope to that. Vagina in latin means sheath or sleeve, and there's only one thing anybody ever would have had in mind to go inside the scabbard.🙄 Way to demonstrate how traditional patriarchy elevates and honors Women u guise.
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I'm sure they all do for somebody somewhere, but that's a them problem and not a me problem ahha
They sure as hell recognize anger as an emotion if a woman gets the slightest bit angry over something no matter how justified she is..hence the saying, "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" ..I'm like, good god are they serious? Men are the most viciously vindictive beings to ever walk the earth!
Every single stereotype that’s been pinned on women has been pure projection from my observations. Women are emotional, irrational, obsessed with material goods, gossip, are bad drivers, dramatic, attention-seeking, shallow, gold-diggers? Nah, men do that shit WAYYYY more than women. So much more.
Like the tweet, I knew a guy who broke his hand by punching a tile floor… because he was mad he had to leave the house at 8pm…
Guys will look at a society in which the majority of people say that a woman couldn't be trusted to be president because "what if she got her period and launched the nukes," and then complain about how unfair it is that men aren't allowed to show emotions.
They also need to learn about menopause.
😂😂😂 ikr? 'Twas alws an interesting combination of interesting, infuriating, and just sad to hear middle-aged and older scrotes—who REALLY should know better, having had wives go through menopause and stop having their own periods at fiftyish—making their little kidding-on-the-square comments about how Hillary Clinton wouldn't be a stable leader "on her rag"... when Ms. Clinton was running for president at age 68.
That's because they do know better. They are doing this rhetoric on purpose to humiliate women, because they enjoy it.
It's true that lots of these are the types of dudes to crack crude jokes about Women amongst themselves, yeah... but a lot of them really ARE oblivious enough (undoubtedly as a result of being similarly oblivious to Wives' and Daughters' needs amd wants) that you can tell the whole idea of menopause and postmenopause has just fallen totally out of the brain pan.
With guys like the kind I have in mind here, there's NO chance of ever confusing "legitimately forgot about x thing completely, out of pure self-absorbed obliviousness" with "quite aware of x thing, and actively making mean-spirited jOkEs about it". Those are two completely different presentations from that set.
Yeah, how many Russians and Ukrainians are dying right now due to one man's pathetic ego? Not for the first time either, and it won't be the last.
I used to know a guy who divorced his second wife because she cried once and he no longer respected her.
It's just amazing to me that rage and anger-induced violence isn't coded as irrational emotion, but sadness is. It's like society gaslights entire emotional categories--one gets validated, one gets invalidated.
Women can talk to their friends
Yes, we cultivate these relationships by being there for others so we have people who can be there for us
This is a man problem for men to fix
FR men will be like “it’s society’s [women’s] fault for forcing men to be emotionless robots or else they’re gay”
let’s break that down
Women are BEGGING for men to be emotionally intelligent, because it would benefit us and our children in countless ways beyond physical safety
Women are typically higher EQ because we build strong, lasting relationships with other women
Men refuse to confide in their friends and provide emotional support amongst each other, because
a) that’s gay
b) they expect women to provide
emotional support
c) they expect women to provide this
without any reciprocal emotional
support, failing to understand that
are there for each other because we know when we need our girls they will be there, failing to understand the change begins with them and their male friendships
Not to mention that even if we were to provide them with free therapy via our emotional support, they typically respect us and our constructive input less than they would a man’s.
Men are the cause of men’s issues. Men are also the cause of women’s issues. Call me crazy, but men are the issue.
They complain that feminists aren’t addressing their issues….
The MRAs do nothing but harass feminists
There is a need for legitimate Mens activism. Mental health, homeless, male victims of sexual abuse, etc
But they never care
"Men are forced to hide their feelings."
How many women have been taught to smile, cooperate, and be polite even when being mistreated?
I hear/read this so often, can't remember where I replied something like 'how often do we say 'no it's OK', 'really let's just forget it and move on', 'no I'm not mad, it's fine', 'I don't mind at all'.' Tell me again which sex is forced to hide our feelings.
Lol you're right!
That, and "I deserve to be my authentic self" are some of the biggest lies in gender discourse. No one gets to be 100% authentic, 100% of the time.
Actually, I misspoke. Babies get to be 100% authentic, 100% of the time. Everyone else is supposed to grow up and learn to manage their emotions. Humans are social animals. You can't avail yourself of the benefits of human society without making at least a few sacrifices and compromises to get along with your fellow humans.