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Femme [Lesbian] vs Femininty [Straight]
Posted June 24, 2021 by notyourmother in LovingWomen

There is a lot to say about femininity in our society because it's imposed on women and in many cases it is just performed to escape persecution. There have been a lot of interesting topics on gender nonconformity and perfomative femininity.

I wonder if we should apply our opposition to this [femininty] differently depending on orientation. Femme lesbians happen to be feminine like the way straight women are (clothing/perhaps demeanor) but unlike straight women, don't they actually break gender stereotypes?

Isn't femme actually a form of gender nonconformity, because society expects feminine women to be "prepared" for straight men, but then this particular femme lesbian actually wants to be with a woman?

When does stereotypical femininity become a result of patriarchy, and if it does for straight women but not for lesbians, then why would this be the case? Are there outward differences that I am not aware of, or is everything internal? I'm genuinely curious.

I don't include Bisexuals in this (even tho I am one myself) because they are already assumed to be stereotypically feminine all the time even when this is not the case. There are plenty of feminine lesbians, and plenty of masculine lesbians, so that's why.

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hypatiaMarch 31, 2021(Edited March 31, 2021)

My favorite small detail about the Labyrinth is how clouds of glitter sometimes announce Jareth's arrival XD

[Deleted]March 31, 2021

Mine is all the real chickens, they really were the stars.

GenderHereticMarch 31, 2021

Did you ever watch Return to Oz?

[Deleted]March 31, 2021

I have not! Is there a good chicken presence?

GenderHereticMarch 31, 2021(Edited March 31, 2021)

In that film (and the book it's based on of course), instead of Toto, Dorothy has a chicken companion named Billina. Billina is from Dorothy's farm and gains the power of speech in Oz, and is played using a very realistic puppet... and a live chicken, depending on the shot. The film is kind of dark and twisted, in that '80s way that was popular at the time, but it's so worth it just for Billina alone. She carries the film. She gets a happy ending, too, opting to stay in Oz rather than "go back to that dust bowl".

[Deleted]March 31, 2021

It sounds amazing! I will totally be watching this and join the Billina fan club.

InvisibleWomanMarch 31, 2021

Me post lockdown. I've part forgotten how to dress myself and part stopped giving the last bit of a shit about what people think are well matched outfits.

[Deleted]March 31, 2021

I’m just glad to be back where there’s actual changes of season so I’m not stuck in dreary tee shirts all the time, and where there are places to go (okay mostly hospital appointments so far, but still) so it’s worth putting on something nice!

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[Deleted]March 31, 2021

Yes! More due to climate and there being anywhere to go for me (the town I lived near before was tiny, now I’m in a regional city) than lockdown. Restrictions here have been lifted, masks are only for hospitals and public transport now. I can’t imagine what it was like during the worst of it, or for people in much harder-hit countries. I know the second lockdown in Melbourne was hard on my friends there.

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[Deleted]April 1, 2021

I suspect that’s the case pretty well everywhere. We’re very fortunate to be an island continent.

HessaHeinMarch 31, 2021

Kinda wish I could dress more weird more often...

SamuraiGhostCatMarch 31, 2021

🤣🤣🤣