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Really upsetting how the trans cult has poisoned no many words. I groan whenever I see the word LGBT anymore now. I know plenty of people use LGB, but I've honestly grown to hate the whole acronym thing because of all this. I guess when it comes down to it, LGB is united by homosexuality/ same-sex attraction.

When I look at LGB Alliance's Twitter feed, I often see people accusing them of biphobia when they only say lesbian and gay. I find that silly. All LGB people experience same-sex attraction and bisexuals are technically homosexual as well, just not exclusively homosexual. So I guess I'm just going to say homosexuals or same-sex attracted from now on. For me personally, I think it's the most clear and concise way to speak the truth in this sea of trans foolery. Plus I also had a TRA srtaight up proudly admit that same-sex rights are transphobic so it'll piss off the TRAs. What language do you like to use?

Really upsetting how the trans cult has poisoned no many words. I groan whenever I see the word LGBT anymore now. I know plenty of people use LGB, but I've honestly grown to hate the whole acronym thing because of all this. I guess when it comes down to it, LGB is united by homosexuality/ same-sex attraction. When I look at LGB Alliance's Twitter feed, I often see people accusing them of biphobia when they only say lesbian and gay. I find that silly. All LGB people experience same-sex attraction and bisexuals are technically homosexual as well, just not exclusively homosexual. So I guess I'm just going to say homosexuals or same-sex attracted from now on. For me personally, I think it's the most clear and concise way to speak the truth in this sea of trans foolery. Plus I also had a TRA srtaight up proudly admit that same-sex rights are transphobic so it'll piss off the TRAs. What language do you like to use?

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[–] Tiramisu 12 points Edited

I use the gay community or LGB.

Edit: I feel like I should also say that I refuse to use any of the slurs like queer.

I tend to use same-sex attraction or SSA for short. I suppose it would depend on how 'lesbian' and 'gay' are being used. If they're being used as a stand-in for SSA, that's fine, it's just annoying then if a bisexual says they experience 'lesbian' or 'gay' love that they often get chewed out for it. Gay and lesbian seem to have three different meanings: a person who's solely SSA, as an adjective denoting that kind of person, or as an adjective denoting someone who experiences SSA but not necessarily exclusive SSA.

[–] BlackCirce 8 points Edited

It depends on what I’m talking about. I’m trying to move away from the initialism because I find it no longer has meaning. I’m bisexual and I think gay and lesbian is fine because the rights a bisexual person needs are encompassed by the gay and lesbian rights movement. The social aspect is different so I think that has to be addressed separately by the bisexual community. I’m tired of the proliferation of labels and identities that serve to cover up real issues that everyone has.

Edit: Biphobia (as in prejudice against bisexual people) is a real phenomenon but it has nothing to do with a gay and lesbian rights organization using gay and lesbian in their messaging.

Depends who I am talking to, but "gay" is now used for literally anything, so I avoid using that now. And when you use LGB, I think it makes people suspicious. Same-sex attracted is accurate and leaves behind any sort of feelings of community and exclusion. LGBT+ has become a bucket in which you can toss all your oppressed minorities (and then some). So I now almost exclusively use "same-sex attracted" when I'm talking about gay, lesbian and bisexual people and our causes as same-sex attracted individuals.

Exactly same. LGB makes it too obvious you’re dropping the T, and then people get preemptively defensive and unable to listen to anything else I have to say. SSA flies under the radar enough that you don’t get that immediate defensiveness/antagonism, in my experience.

It depends on the context of the conversation. If I'm talking about a specific group, I try to use accurate terms. "Gay" for homosexual men, "Lesbian" for homosexual women, and "Bisexual" for bisexual people. Now, if I'm talking in a conversation and want to talk about everyone who experiences SSA, I will use the phrase "same-sex attracted". I may use LGB in order to cut down on the word count, but I'm not particular about it. I just want to mean what I say and say what I mean with as little room for misinterpretation as possible.

[–] JLT 2 points

LGB is too incendiary. Mostly I specify the group- lesbian, lesbi (lesbian + bisexual women), same-sex attracted (gay men + lesbian + bisexual), homosexual, gay, bisexual, etc. This is probably because I tend to discuss the specifics and make fewer sweeping generalizations. I don't know much about gay men or bisexual men and women so I don't talk about them very much and I don't feel comfortable speaking for them.

Depends on what I'm talking about, and whether I am in fact talking. I say "same-sex [inanimate object] when I'm talking, because it's hard to get the absence of the T by ear. I also use "same-sex" because sexual orientation (unlike sex) is invisible, and it's not belonging to a category (not to mention "identity") that puts people in the crosshairs, it's same-sex relationships, and it's important to highlight that. "Gay and lesbian relationships" also works (no such thing as "bisexual relationship").

But sometimes I need to refer to the people, and "same-sex-attracted" is unwieldy. LGB looks concise and memetic in writing, so to overwrite the pedonarrative I use it, too.

(There's no such thing as "the LGB community".)

When I look at LGB Alliance's Twitter feed, I often see people accusing them of biphobia

The wokies are full of shit, what else is new? The LGB Alliance and its sister organizations are a global network, they know what homophobia is. "Biphobia" is essentially saying that gays and lesbians not fucking bisexuals is discrimination on the level of Chechen mass murder and Nigerian anal probes. "See? Both sides are bad!"

Personally, I'm done with acronyms. I use "lesbians", "gay men", "bisexual men/women/people" when talking about a particular group. More generally I use "same-sex-attracted". It's clear, unlikely to be misinterpreted, and less likely to get the woke bullies' attention.

But I do fantasize about using LGB as soon as I can safely out myself as a terf. I feel a desperate need for the rest of society to understand that we have nothing to do with the T.

Another option is sexual minority. I use all three from time to time. Most of my family and close friends know that i am against men playing in women's sports and inhabiting women's prisons. I don't use social media with my rn other than to promote my professional work.

Nothing against those who use it but I personally do not like the term same-sex attracted, even though it is accurate, bc it reminds me of conversion therapy and xtian contexts where I would usually hear it.. as in "you need to pray to Jesus to help you fight your same sex attraction" bc they don't believe gay people actually exist. I usually say the gay community, or lesbian community if I am talking about just lesbians.

I say LGB because I want to make it explicitly clear that I'm also discussing bisexual people. It's the most specific and accurate. As a bisexual person I don't mind if people just say "gay" with the intention of including me in that group, but personally when I speak/write I generally want to make it clear when I'm talking about gays and bisexuals both.

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