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questionLabels and Questioning my Sexuality
Posted July 6, 2023 by [Deleted] in LovingWomen

I will start this post by sharing that I have Aspergers, which means that my experiences with what I think is attraction may not actually be the case, and I'm not sure what the difference is between being best friends and being romantically attracted to someone is, aside from sex (wanting to have sex with another person) and sexual attraction (what I think is the weird feelings in my chest when I'm around someone I like).

My first crushes were boys, but that was based off of my definition of sexual attraction, not a desire to actually have sex (I want really thinking about sex at this time). When I started having crushes on girls, it was a similar experience to my first male crushes. The most desire I felt for either sex was kissing. I just assumed I was bi, because of this.

When I started masturbating, it was never about another person. I had to struggle to think about an attractive person (of either sex) while masturbating and I could really only focus on myself and my pleasure. Additionally, I would best describe the way I have always masturbated as the "solo equivalent of dry humping (without any aids like pillows: i.e. just my legs)." The thought of a woman or a man is too distracting to me when I am doing this.

I did find erotic fanfiction around 14 years old (big mistake). This caused me a lot of confusion, including stemming from the fact that I mostly enjoyed reading explicit MLM stories, but the pleasure came from me imagining how good it must feel to engage in those acts—even though I don't actually think most if not all of it would feel good at all. I have since recognized the problematic nature of this habit/bordering on behavioral addiction. I am no longer reading any fanfiction.

I find visual porn far less appealing. Even seeing two characters make out (i.e. two characters having sex underneath the sheets without any body parts showing) for longer than 5 seconds prompts me to fast forward through that scene. I'd rather know that that's what those characters did without having to watch even a TV-14 depiction of them doing it. The most interest I would get out of a visually explicit scene would be seeing a naked woman who isn't having sex.

I did date a boy a few years ago for about four weeks and I ended it after noticing several red flags including his emotional over-the-top reactions to me spending time with anyone but him. However, the most we did was held hands, I did not seriously want to have sex with him, and it mainly consisted of what I think is sexual attraction (read paragraph one for an explanation).

Honestly, the more I consider what sex with a man would actually entail, the less interested I am in it. I am curious/interested in having sex with another woman and I almost always imagine myself with a woman when I fantasize about having a long-term relationship with a S.O.

However, I have never had sex, so I honestly do not know whether I would enjoy sex at all (aside from maybe dry humping with another person). I am also in no rush at all—I would be okay with never having sex with another person and I do not want to engage in sex unless I am emotionally committed to that person.

Thus, I am not sure if I am bisexual (likely febfem if this is the case), lesbian, or celibate/sex-repulsed. I am more than happy to consider myself questioning and simply move on with my life. However, I would like to know before I enter a relationship sometime in the future (and potentially find out that I don't like having sex with the genitals my partner has). I also like to label myself because I enjoy belonging to a community of others who are like me and being able to have a single word that sums up my experiences in one aspect of life to a fairly accurate extent. Does anyone have any advice/reccomendations?

32 comments

UnicornFebruary 21, 2024

"I don't like dick" still applies to a surgically inverted dick. Hope this helps.

PicklesFebruary 21, 2024

An inside out sock is still a sock!

[Deleted]February 22, 2024

Lol, you're right. But honestly it's a smellier sock.

PicklesFebruary 22, 2024

Haha this made me lol. The similarities are numerous.

LadyLabrysNative vaginaFebruary 21, 2024

Yoooo I'm gonna use that! Brilliant.

NastasyaFillipovnaFebruary 22, 2024

Any idea what r/popular post he is talking about?

PicklesFebruary 22, 2024(Edited February 22, 2024)

No, I wish I did. I think this comment was a TIF though. Not positive though

realityismykinkFebruary 22, 2024

people really think that they can spot a trans person. You can't.

He's not totally wrong. I see lots of TIMs who I don't realize are TIMs, I just think they're normal guys.

MaryDyerFebruary 21, 2024

And for the 10% that actually get surgery, their perineal holes AREN’T vaginas, any more than vegan meat is meat. Not only are they constructed either from penile tissue (which, you know, women don’t have) or intestinal tissue, but they’re literally WOUNDS. They are SURGICAL WOUNDS kept open infinitely by artificial means. Nobody, and I mean nobody, can be pressured into interacting sexually with a WOUND.

SpinstaaFebruary 22, 2024

These men need to understand that IT DOESNT MATTER.

Whatever they do with “bottom surgery” is no way similar to a vagina. All you need to do is look at all the complications and complaints of “poop smell” to know. I’m not sure who would find that attractive.

Also not everyone is attracted to everyone! There’s plenty of men out there that I find unattractive and would never want to see in the nude, let alone experience any type of intimacy with.

Why can’t they leave us alone?! PLEASE take no for an answer and quit with your male behaviour

cosmiamothFebruary 21, 2024

I would say the front hole created from anus tissue is even more repulsive than a penis.

PotionsFebruary 22, 2024

It’s ten times worse.

puppy_catFebruary 21, 2024

Why uncomfortable?

Has this guy ever not wanted to fuck someone else in his life? There are an infinite number of examples where "uncomfortable in sleeping with someone" makes complete and total sense, without even including anything trans. "Uncomfortable", like how I wouldn't want to sleep with a geriatric person because I'm in my 20s and not attracted to people 3-4x my age. "Uncomfortable" with sleeping with someone who is married. "Uncomfortable" with sleeping with someone who is a quadruple amputee. People have preferences, and above all, people have a fucking sexuality.

mathloverFebruary 21, 2024

"Why uncomfortable?" Because the comment gets deleted and the person banned if they say disgusted, repulsed, horrified, nauseated, terrified, revolted, traumatized, etc. When we say "uncomfortable" we actually mean all those other things.

overanddoneFebruary 21, 2024

because all men would fuck anything that moves, or does not move, they think all women want to do the same.

Pro tip for the TRAs lurking: we don't

Also? We "can" spot a trans person. We are either too kind to say, scared of snickering because consequences, or supremely uninterested in you anyway. Deal with it.

ProxyMusicBrysexualFebruary 21, 2024(Edited February 22, 2024)

I think the percentage of TIMs who keep their dicks intact is closer to 97% today. At the very least, it's 95%.

Using survey data from 2015 - nearly a decade ago - trans activist researchers reported in 2019 that

Genital GCS [gender confirmation surgery] is generally less common than chest surgery, with prevalence rates of...about 5–10% for transgender women

Chest surgery may be more important to outward gender expression for many individuals, as the presence or absence of breast tissue is more readily visible in daily life than are the genitalia. Chest surgery is likely more accessible as well, as most plastic surgeons are familiar with breast augmentation and mastectomy for non-gender affirming implications, while relatively few are trained in techniques required for transgender genital reconstruction (36).

In surveys and research studies conducted in 2009, 2012, 2014 and 2015,

Transgender women report[ed] bottom surgery at rates between 5–13% (7-9,32)

The part of the body that TIMs are least likely to get "feminizing" procedures on is their genitals.

Transgender women and non-binary individuals assigned male at birth may commonly seek procedures that feminize other highly-gendered aspects of their outward presentation, such as the face, tracheal cartilage, body contour, body hair, and voice.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6626314/

A paper published in 2023 (that seems to have been intentionally written so that it's hard to follow) looked at data on "gender affirming surgeries" conducted in the USA from 2016 to 2020. The data came from

the Nationwide Ambulatory Surgery Sample (NASS) and the National Inpatient Sample (NIS). NASS is an ambulatory surgery database and captures major ambulatory surgical procedures at nearly 2800 hospital-owned facilities from up to 35 states, approximating a 63% to 67% stratified sample of hospital-owned facilities. NIS comprehensively captures approximately 20% of inpatient hospital encounters from all community hospitals across 48 states participating in the Healthcare Cost and Utilization Project (HCUP), covering more than 97% of the US population. Both NIS and NASS contain weights that can be used to produce US population estimates.12,13

From these sources, the researchers say they idenfified a total of 48,019 patients who underwent some kind of "gender affirming surgery" from 2016 to 2020.

Although from my reading, I suspect this might mean they identified 48,019 surgeries. It's not clear to me.

The most common procedures were breast and chest procedures, which occurred in 27,187 patients (56.6%),

The so-called "breast procedures" mean operations to install factory-made plastic sacs of silicone gel or saline solution into the chest walls of TIMs.

Men and boys realizing their fantasies of obtaining large, fake-looking artificial orbs they like to call "porn star tits" (to use Jazz Jennings' phrase) appear to have accounted for 44% of the "breast and chest procedures." The other 56% were TIFs getting their healthy breasts amputated.

Facial and cosmetic procedures - which included liposuction, rhinoplasty, cutting down and remodeling the facial bones of TIMs, tracheal shaves, hair removal or transplantation, collagen injections and facial implants - accounted for 6669 patients/procedures (13.9%).

The most common genital reconstructive procedure was hysterectomy (4489 [9.3%]), followed by orchiectomy (3425 [7.1%]), and vaginoplasty (3381 [7.0%]).

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2808707

Of course, these figures don't mean that 7% of all TIMs have had or will have gential surgeries. These figures simply mean that of the TIPs and NBs in the USA who had some kind of "gender affirming surgeries" in 2016-2020, 7% were TIMs who had genital surgeries. This group represents just a tiny proportion of all TIMs, most of whom never get any surgeries of any kind.

All of which leads me to believe that at least 97% of TIMs have their dicks and balls intact, just like all the rest of their male urogenital organs.

Spencer_ShayyFebruary 21, 2024

Why would it make someone uncomfortable? Uh, maybe because "trans" people are fucking insane? Most people don't want to be with a liar who is incredibly entitled and unstable to the point of self mutilation via hormones and cosmetic surgery.

Would y'all makeup your minds? You can't have it both ways. Either we can't tell who is "trans" because y'all "pass", or we can and you're all being "genocided" and "rejected" because of it.

SnowWhiteFebruary 21, 2024

Sorry but in reality 100% of TiM keep their dick. Some just invert it, but it's still a penis.

Women1stFebruary 21, 2024

How about the high rates of mental illness in the trans community? Is it ok that to limit dating for that reason? I’m just curious where the line is. IMO, you get to decide who you date/sleep with- anyone telling you who to date is rape culture.

RusticTroglodyteOliver Twist MuppetFebruary 22, 2024(Edited February 22, 2024)

Bingo plus high rates of substance abuse and prostitution

I don't care if someone doesn't want to fuck me

He was actually forced at gunpoint to write down his opinion on the matter.

Spencer_ShayyFebruary 21, 2024

They always say that lol

"I don't care if you don't want to have sex with me!"

Followed by an incel manifesto about how it's wrong if you don't.

mathloverFebruary 21, 2024

Lesbians and straight men don't want TIMs because they are men. The dick may be the most sexually repulsive thing but the entire rest of men is repulsive. Every cell in their bodies, everything about them remains male. Getting a surgical front-hole doesn't change that.

samsdatFebruary 21, 2024

Oh, we can spot you. In real life, we can spot you.

RusticTroglodyteOliver Twist MuppetFebruary 22, 2024

For real. They DO trick me sometimes online, but irl? Nope

TheKnittaSpacePopeFebruary 22, 2024

What part of NO don’t you understand, sir?

mothFebruary 22, 2024(Edited February 22, 2024)

"It doesn't bother me that someone doesn't want to fuck me" explains why it bothers him

aprilFebruary 21, 2024

The fact that "as if every trans woman out there has a cock" is said with sincerity, and not some double stuffed sarcastic Dane Cook joke from 2004....

Now being able to tell that they're men is transphobic.

IrishTheFrenchienon-cis logicFebruary 21, 2024

Ok “Left Tiddy”. 🙄🙄

PicklesFebruary 21, 2024

Anyone know what post that person is talking about? I'd be interested to see it, but I couldn't find it.

DerpinaFebruary 21, 2024

"...Genital reconstruction was performed for 16 872 patients (35.1%)....vaginoplasty (3381 [7.0%])..."

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2808707 "National Estimates of Gender-Affirming Surgery in the US"

RusticTroglodyteOliver Twist MuppetFebruary 22, 2024

Like anyone, anywhere wants to put their mouth or penis near a surgical wound