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MetaHow horrific is too horrific?
As a circle designed to record male violence, this circle is almost entirely full of potentially distressing material. It's important to recognise the issue of male violence, but it's also true that it's emotionally draining and can be disturbing to be exposed to this material constantly, and that some material can be more upsetting than others.
I'm proposing guidelines that material that has a heightened likelihood of disturbing readers is flagged NSFW (in lieu of a trigger warning.) So far, I've identified child sexual abuse and infanticide as sensitive content that needs to be flagged. I'd like input on any other categories of male violence which might also be included in this list.
I want this to be fine-tuned so that it's not too narrow or too broad: the nature of this circle is that it's all fucking horrific, so it might be tricky to work out what's horrific horrifc, and what's just regular horrific.
/u/RedMage /u/ThisReality and anyone else who wants to contribute, please join this conversation.
Sounds reasonable. We'll work out what exactly needs to be flagged, and i certainly agree with your suggestions so far.
I'd appreciate that. The point of this circle is to document this, and it's inherently awful. But some things, particularly involving babies, I can't handle, so if there is some clue in the headline or flair, that helps me avoid things that will just mess with my head.
We've added some new guidelines to the sidebar, so the next step is to generate a culture where people flag by topic and tag the most disturbing material appropriately. If anyone needs new flairs, summon me - /u/womenpausal - and I'll create one.
I am computer-stupid - how would I add flair to a post?
I'm the perfect person to ask, because I've just added flairs to everything on our front page. OK, so you make your post, then go as if you're going to comment on it. Underneath the title of the post is a row of small purple text options that goes
save flair delete tag as NSFW
Click flair and you get a lot of phrases to choose from. You can only choose one. That's all there is to it!
Hi! Can this autohide posts based on tag? Iirc, animal reddit s often have a way to hide death posts from you
Additionally, I've noticed that /o/lesbians shows up in my all feed, despite me not being subbed to that ovarit. How can we prevent the worst from being shown to all?
As for the actual question, I think it may be more helpful to tag the type of abuse it is. Child abuse is obviously worse than other types, but if the system was tagged by type and not severity, the user could kind of... Customize it to what they're comfortable reading about. So, a victim of porn could filter/ignore posts about porn.
That way we aren't trying to gauge what the group thinks is "too much". I think that will end up with extra work for mods with users complaining about this post that post etc. I think if we tag based on type, then that may be more work upfront, but then easier mod work down the line.
^ Great suggestion!
If this tagging system can be done, I agree that this is the best way to handle it. Hopefully it's possible
Flairs are already available.
There are already flairs for various kind of posts. Not everyone uses them, but they're there, just like the Meta flair on this post you're commenting on right now. They are mostly different categories of male violence which ThisReality very thoughtfully copied over from Reddit. We just need more uptake on that function. New categories are easy to add.
There's no filtering system, though, that function doesn't exist on Ovarit.
Another issue is, how do we enforce the assigning of flair to posts? If there's a way to script for that and implement it, I'd be happy to help. I flair my posts but I don't always flair everyone else's, same as on Reddit. Right now, the traffic is low enough here that if I needed to flair everything manually I could, but that doesn't scale as the site grows.
I agree with those guidelines. I'm also hoping that the presence of the guidelines will serve as a warning to readers that they might run into content they'd rather not read and to proceed with caution.
Also, before we post we can think about the potential of the material to upset others badly, and flair it/warn accordingly. For example, a story about a murder-suicide might be very cut and dried like something you'd see in any newspaper, or it might be graphic and horrifying, depending on how and where it's reported. Not every murder-suicide might need a NSFW tag, but we need to note those that are upsetting in detail. Maybe by including (Graphic) or (Upsetting) or some such in the title.
We might need a "Torture" or "Extreme Physical Injury" flair. I'm thinking about a news story from the U.K. that I read recently about a man on trial for kidnapping/rape/torture, and what he put the woman through and the condition she was found in is just awful, to the point where I haven't posted it here or on Reddit.
Good idea. I'll put that in, when I work out how to phrase it. I think add NSFW can be applied to graphic descriptions of violence as well. It's a shame we can't add multiple tags to a post, but we can work out a system with the tools we have.