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[–] BlackCirce 🔮🐖🐖🐖 73 points

That men have convinced feminist women that they’re actually the marginalized ones never ceases to amaze me.

Tbh I think Dr. Proudman is just trying to cover her ass, the queerized feminist movement will never accept radical feminists of any kind.

Handmaidens buy into “the most marginalised” because they know deep down that it’s a horrible fate to be in a permanent war against reality. Possibly even the worst of all fates. The sympathy is in some ways legit.

But if they thought it through consciously, they’d realise they’re not helping.

Tbh I think Dr. Proudman is just trying to cover her ass

I don't think so. She appears to be a genuine full-blown TRA and nothing anywhere near a radical feminist.

Jun 19: As a feminist, I believe that trans rights are human rights. Trans people are some of the most marginalized people in our society and they deserve to be treated with respect and dignity. I will continue to fight for their rights and equality.

Apr 8: No one should be told their identity is something that can be cured with conversion “therapies”. This is inhumane. We need to stand with the trans community and make the gov’t end torturous treatment once and for all.

Notice that the conversation has gone from 'F*ck TERFs!!' to 'Radical feminists need to be trans allies'.

I'm sorry, I thought we were worse than Nazis? I thought we were subhuman, and it was ok to punch us? And yet now we're being told they need us as allies? Please.

As if any radical feminist will swallow the line that men who larp as women are somehow more marginalized than actual women.

Dr EM said it perfectly.

[–] Riothamus scrote 38 points Edited

Notice that the conversation has gone from 'F*ck TERFs!!' to 'Radical feminists need to be trans allies'.

I'm sorry, I thought we were worse than Nazis? I thought we were subhuman, and it was ok to punch us? And yet now we're being told they need us as allies? Please.

They're terrified. They know they've lost control of the narrative so they've switched from coercion to guilt-tripping.

It's like watching an abusive narcissist lose power in a relationship. The next stage involves pathetic groveling mixed with even more suicide threats.

It's like watching an abusive narcissist lose power in a relationship. The next stage involves pathetic groveling mixed with even more suicide threats.

Ooh that bit should be good🍿🍿

Yes, I've noticed. Terfs are gaining ground. TRAs are really worried, and since the slur explicitly excludes trans, they can't co-opt it like everything else. 🤣 In a way it's pretty fucking funny.

Maybe that’s the only good thing that came out of the TERF slur? That they can’t steal it and sell merchandise on it now. Shot them selves in the foot there

If there isn't a critical mass of women supporting them, then it's undeniable that they are male supremacists trying to dominate us.

I mean everything about radical feminism scares them let’s be honest. Not pandering to fetishistic men is the trending subject but wait until they realise we don’t tout “sex work is work” and our thoughts on surrogacy

hoooo no, you already ruined mainstream feminism for everyone and made a whole generation of girls hate being girls because of the rampant sexualization and "sex positivity" don't you dare come and ruin rad feminism. Rad fems don't think sex work is work- that should be like garlic to a vampire to lib fems.

It's not that I don't think sex work is work, it's that I don't care whether sex work is work. No one in their right mind would deny that enslaved people on cotton plantations did one fuck of a lot of work. We still banned slave labor (see caveat below), because the fact that it's exploitation is more important than the fact it's "work." Something being "work" does not make it okay, or ethical, or non-exploitative.

[Caveat: The Thirteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution outlaws slavery unless it is conferred as punishment for a convicted crime. And now you know why so many American black people go to prison for acts which get their white counterparts nothing worse than probation.]

I think the slogan ‘sex work is work’ is meant to mean that prostitution is literally the same as any other job

Radfems must be trans allies? Is she seriously going there? Playing the beneficent authoritarian MUST card?!

Translation: "Radfems must suck AGP girldique." After you, Hon. After you!

Omg they’re trying to colonise radical feminism too now to erase us

Kindly f*ck off back to your lib fem handmaidenry

The big problem is they shot themselves on the foot. They made a massive villan out of the radfems, the TERFs and now everyone wants a peek behind the curtain to see what’s going on they can’t colonise it and take their insults back

I actually follow Charlotte Proudman. I don't know why a reasonable well educated person in many ways that calls herself a feminist takes this view. It baffles me.

Because she wants to get invited to all the cool people's cocktail parties and get head pats for being a good ally

I was at a do with her once and she came across as quite arrogant and entitled, so I'm not as stunned as I would have been if I hadn't met her.