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Champagne_LasagneDecember 8, 2022(Edited December 8, 2022)

I am! I'm not done yet though with this last season. I like to see how Araki got over his misogyny while he was writing his series, he improves a little bit with every chapter. I think his art is also a way for him to explore the world around him and his psyche. He confronts and resolves his 'mommy issues' (for a lack of a better world) with season 4, with season 5 he finally creates a complex and round female character, and now with Stone Ocean he gets to... Make peace with women in general. In the first seasons you could see how icky he felt towards the female sex - I sternly believe he's gay, so I've always thought about the first chapters like a "how am I supposed to feel towards these beings" phase. He literally wrote lines for (supposedly) straight male characters that sound like Captain Holt in Brooklyn 99 when he's trying to pass for straight. "Yes I'm such a manly man I like boobz and to kiss women... Not those sexy half-naked muscular menz over there nope sireee only... Boobz... I guess."

Anyhow, I'm really liking this chapter so far, F.F. is my fav character for sure and I have a soft spot for Weather Forecast. I speak Italian so I can't take Emporio seriously with that name lmao. Jolyne is amazing and I'm always stoked to see muscular girls cosplaying her in anime/gaming conventions.

I know I wrote a poem but I'm always happy to discuss this sort of stuff with you ladies!

FeminaDecember 8, 2022(Edited December 8, 2022)

F.F. was awesome! Pitty she ended up getting the short end of the stick of all the characters...

Weather Forecast has a tragic past where he and his biological sister ended up falling in love with each other without knowing they were siblings due to Weather Forecast being separated from his biological family at birth, and Enrico Pucci who is Weather Forecast's biological twin brother paid a shady fella to scare Weather Forecast to separate the siblings who had fallen in love with each other upon finding out Weather Forecast was their biological brother before they ended up going along further in their incestuous relationship as that could have caused all sorts of problems including having kids with severe genetic issues but the thing is the shady fella that Enrico Pucci paid was a much worse person than he thought...

The shady fella was a racist and ended up almost killing Weather Forecast instead of merely scaring him off upon finding out that Weather Forecast's adoptive mother was married to a black bloke and assuming Weather Forecast's father was black and Enrico Pucci and Weather Forecast's sister ended up suiciding due to feeling guilty thinking Weather had died because of her brother Enrico Pucci and decided she didn't want anyone hurting her heart again due to thinking her brother Enrico Pucci had planned on killing them on purpose and that he was involved with racist people when he just wanted to separate the siblings to stop their incestuous relationship before it was too late...

By complex and round female character from part 5 are you referring to Diavolo's daughter Trish by the way?

It is indeed awesome to see a male author like Shingo Araki growing past his misogyny on his series over the years! What you said about the creator of Jojo possibly being gay may explain all the fabulous males in Jojo certainly... I mean just look at DIO, Kars, Diavolo and Annasui\Anastacia among many others! XD

Does " emporio " mean something funny in Italian by the way? XD

Judy_GarlandDecember 8, 2022(Edited December 8, 2022)

I read it years ago, but I've been meaning to see how well they adapted it. I both love and hate Stone Ocean for a myriad of reasons:

Love:

- Jolyne is super cool.

- F.F. is extra cool.

- Lots of strong female characters.

- The fights are some of the best in the franchise.

- Especially love the particular way Jolyne dealt with overcoming enemy stands' abilities.

- There's well-written drama between the female characters and their pasts, and so not one-note like you know, Yukako in part 4.

- Pretty gripping storytelling as they escape from that shithole Floridian prison.

- Funny jab at Tifs at the start.

Hate:

- Araki's takes on female psychology are garbage. He believes women only act out if their fathers aren't loving. Super simplistic and misogynistic theme throughout part 6.

- Araki originally designed Anasui as a woman, and his first appearance clearly shows that. He said he changed her to a male to be "progressive" with a transvestite love interest. Yeah, so much more progressive than a lesbian couple. Not to mention the fact that he's a woman killing piece of shit that doesn't respect Jolyne's boundaries, and when the universe resets they end up engaged.

- The ending is super stupid. Every JoJo ends up beating their big bad, which is why Lisa Lisa got shafted so easily despite being the strongest human in part 2, but Jolyne doesn't. Instead the cowardly little boy ends up taking Weather Report's stand disc and beating Pucci. Ass-pull of the century.

- The realization of Pucci's ambitions is also underwhelming.

- Jolyne openly mocks homosexuals when F.F. is pitching a ball for some reason.

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