This is what always bugs me on a comment section where a handmaiden is virtue signaling that she doesn't mind who is in the changing rooms or toilets and she minds her own business. Like, you think the men who post endlessly in forums about their trips to the ladies bathrooms are minding their own business?
She is also trying to ignore the consent of ten year old girls, of rape victims, of old ladies, of mothers of the ten year old, of every other woman that she doesn't know because she want's to be NLOG. You can also bet she doesn't go near a gym, have kids or play competitive sports.
I always ask them if they think they have the right to force all other women to consent to that. That causes two different values in their value system to collide, irreconcilably. They never know what to say after that.
Nobody is allowed to see me naked without my prior sexual consent. Nobody can be granted that consent on behalf of another. Undressing in a women's locker room is NOT permission for males to see me naked and NOBODY can grant sexual consent for men to see little girls undressing. Child pornography is a heinous crime, but pedos can now pretend to be women and access little girls in person with inexpensive hidden cameras.
Yes, before coming on Ovarit I (quite stupidly really) hadn’t thought of the fact that men coming in changing rooms rides roughshod over me being able to grant my sexual consent to being seen naked by men. Imagine women who’s first time being seen naked by a man is by some creepy dude in the women’s changing room - it’s sick. KEEP MEN OUT OF WOMEN’S SPACES. Bully for you if you’re a handmaiden who doesn’t mind, but those handmaidens don’t speak for the rest of us! And honestly, it feels like a lot of the time the women who say they don’t mind if men use our spaces seem to be women who haven’t experienced much hardship or trauma, or who have not yet come to know what’s it’s like to be on the receiving end of male strength, or who are just insanely lacking in life experience so have this naivety where they don’t get that there are many men who intend to do us harm and who seek to cross our boundaries. We live in the real world, not an ideal world.
Exactly the definition of "luxury beliefs" and they should be told where to put them.
Completely agree with this framing
The wording makes me wonder if we really might see the day when ppl try to legislate female partners for men. I mean if ppl are comfortable overriding sexual consemt like this, then why not?
For years lesbians have been called bigots for excluding "transbians" from their dating pool, and the most vulnerable young women have been coerced into sex with men by threats of cancellation for "transphobia." It's not so very different from the "corrective rape" lesbians have always been threatened with.
If any individual isn’t bothered about sex-segregated spaces then that’s fine for them to not be bothered. They have absolutely no right to apply that to anyone else though. Sex segregated spaces are necessary and even one woman withdrawing because they aren’t available is one woman too many.
Too many people are under the mistaken impression that a communal space is some kind of "democracy" and men should be allowed in if a bunch of dick-pandering transmaidens say so, but that is not how rights work. If ONE woman says "no" ALL men must be prevented from entering. I say no, and any female space that I could enter is therefore off-limits to all men. I know I'm not the only woman who would say no if asked, but these sex-offenders aren't asking, are they? They need to be told, loudly and often to GTFO of female spaces and stay out.