Anyone else... Just still not fully able to grasp that this is freaking actual real life? It's like a South Park episode but much much more absurd. Like, how in the world did we get to a place where a full ass dick-an-balls MAN even utters the words "I'm a lesbian" but to then go and take over the lesbian spaces and scream about their dick? And probably the most absurd, so many hand maidens are clapping and cheering, crying happy tears while everything our foremother won for us is destroyed... And.. by freaking crossdressers??? We fought off Christianity! And we're beaten by fucking transvestites. I don't know, I just cannot believe this is real flesh blood life sometimes.

Lets get the narrative straight,

Lesbians did not include you into our spaces, lesbians were forced to tolerate you based off your own inclusion. There is literally no sense behind a sexual orientation excluding males to all of a sudden, feel compelled to include males. No. Fucking. Sense. The only people pushing for the inclusion of males are other porn-sick TiMs and off-brand 'queers' who have never been in a same-sex relationship and thinks pegging makes them special.

Right from the get-go;

Making this sub a 'better place

for whom exactly?

The sub WAS great place, it used to be dominated by actual women at one point, shocker, I know.

First off, it feels like common sense that some women have penises, and yet I’m still seeing ‘penis bad’ all over this sub and other lesbian subs. It’s incredibly alienating to pre and non-op transfems—can we just be normal about this? I really don’t care about your genital preference but have some basic empathy and keep it to yourself, maybe?

YOU decided it was 'common sense' for males to dicktate what a woman is, not women. It's been said time and time again. Lesbians don't like males. TiMs are male. Tims, by default, can never be a female homosexual by proxy of being male. You just choose not to believe it.

Alienating? fucking good. Leave, and never come back. There is nothing 'normal' about forcing male bodies on sexual demographics that specifically exclude them. That's as close to rape rhetoric as one can get.

Empathy is a mutual understanding of shared emotions. Not something I, as a female homosexual EVER have to extend to you, a male pervert. I don't owe you anything. Not my kindness, not my spaces, and certainly not my body.

Trans people are effectively facing genocide😀The bare minimum we can do as lesbians on the internet is not actively alienate trans lesbians from this space. As lesbians, unwillingness to admit to and engage with our complicity in transmisogyny is unacceptable.

Genocide? I still have yet to see a single one of you formulate a legible list of what rights are specifically being threatened. Being told no when wanting otherwise is not a fundamental right. Being denied access into a space for women is not a right owed to you, a male.

'We, as lesbians' - Doubt, mate. I don't even have to lurk this clowns profile to know it's either another TiM, some projecting woke bisexual, or some poor meek transwife who stole lesbians' orientation to make their male partner feel 'validated'.

Actual lesbian don't engage because we aren't allowed to say anything other than 'yes'. You can lie and claim all the negative press is one-off conservatives or blanket them all as terfs. But everyone and their mum' knows better. It's from inside the house, and it's time to smoke you out.

I’m seeing trans women be ignored and condescended to for politely pointing out transmisogyny—in conversations about sex and genitals and beyond. They deserve to be livid, but even the most tone policed attempts at calling people in get downvoted. I’m sure there’s a terf brigade playing a role in that, which only makes it more critical that we listen to and amplify the voices of trans women here.

Straight men angry that women don't like sad pp, news at 7.

Brigade? see above, clown.

It is absurd to assume you could never have a transmisogynistic thought or opinion—transphobia is engrained in our culture, and it runs deep. The truth is we are all going to fuck up and say something hurtful to somebody at least once in our lives. We cannot prioritize our own egos and convictions that we are perfect flawless allies over the safety and inclusion of trans women.

YOU created this narrative where a man can become a women, and then YOU created this dystopian ideal that you not getting everything that you want is some brand of oppression. Society owes you nothing. Individual people, as harsh as this may be. Don't owe you anything. I don't have to call you anything, I don't have welcome or include you in any of my spaces. That's my prerogative, and the prerogative of those who I wish to affiliate with. Which, in this case would be explicitly other female homosexuals (lesbians), or bi women of the same thinking.

Something you wrote ended up being transphobic but that wasn’t your intention? That’s a learning opportunity, an opportunity for humility and gratitude for the folks who take the time to educate you. An opportunity to apologize for any harm you’ve caused, and to go educate yourself further. Responding to a trans person with hostility for disturbing your ego is so childish and small minded. I feel crazy seeing those comments get hundreds of upvotes while transmisogyny continues to be ignored. This space is not exactly welcoming to transfems as it is, and like…we should change that, obviously. It’s just disheartening to see bigotry perpetuated in queer spaces.

Anything I write at any time could be taken offensively, and given the subjective implications surrounding your community. Makes it akin to somebody hovering over every single word you state, ready to bludgeon you the minute you say something they don't like (in that itself, could be random). I don't need to apologize for shit. I don't like males. the penis is a male sex organ. I have no intention or good-will to associate with either of those things, nor do I have to apologize or make space to include them. The fact that your demographic of TRA/TIP has to CONSTANTLY chide and reprehend homosexuals to 'play nice' with the confused porn-sick clowns is telling. The fact that you're grey-rocked in nearly every lesbian space is telling. The fact that the only people who interact on 'positive' trans posts are either trans themselves or bi/pan/whatever is TELLING.

FYI, they aren't 'queer' spaces. They're lesbian spaces.

Thanks for reading this. Idk if posting this is an effective way to bring about culture change, but I am SO tired of seeing this shit. I think this could be a lovely corner of the internet sans transphobia. Is anyone else noticing this lately? Am I just pointlessly complaining/pandering to the void? Should I fuck off of this site altogether? lmk. Anyway, sending all my love and affection to trans people.

There is no culture TO change. And, yeah. You can leave, you won't be missed.

From the comments:

"I've kind of just given up fighting it at this point and have largely accepted that my lesbian title is little more than an honorary one granted by cis women and entirely subject to their whims, much like my gender identity broadly. I'm glad there are people that haven't lost that spark I suppose, but it never seems to change anything at all."

I can't take the self-pity from these people. "Wah wah, lesbians will never truly accept me." Yeah, duh. You aren't a victim, you're just a man, and the reality is that lesbians will not be attracted to men.

No one who's actually facing genocide cares if there are people out there who don't want to touch their genitals.

Genocide is when lesbians won't suck your dick. 🤪 Fuck off, dude.

First off, it feels like common sense that some women have penises

Fam, you already lost me.

All this blather to try to force lesbians to have sex with you.

Fuck off, rapist.

given how long it seems that TiMs have been infesting these subreddits on possibly their most captured social media site, this post actually seems like a good sign to me. I'm glad if they still feel alienated enough to write these bitter sob posts in 2024

Trans genocide 😀 = lesbians not liking penis

trans misogyny is when women speak to each other about inhabiting a female body or express attraction to female bodies

I skimmed this loser's dissertation and translated it:

««Charlie Brown's teacher noises»»

You're welcome

ETA: literally LMAO@"I don't know if tone policing women this is an effective way to bring about culture change"

No Ok_Estabilishment_799, It’s not common sense that some women have penises, the fact that you constantly have to say it as a mantra every day in order to believe it shows that , also the fact that you constantly have to ask if you’re valid and if PIV sex is a lesbian act.

The lesbian online spaces are in shambles thanks to males forcing their way in and demanding that lesbians want their penises otherwise they’re disgusting transphobic TERFs and by other women who are not lesbian but like the label to feel special and who have let these men have free reign.

Lesbians don’t like penis and never will. Cope with that and leave them alone, how about that? How about unlearning your homophobic views and simply accept that there’s a demographic who won’t date you huh? Why is it important for you to be part of a lesbian dating scene huh?

There's no such thing as transmisogyny. Misogyny is dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women, and women only. You are a man, a geezer, a bloke, and can fuck right off.

It’s a special type of heartless to say trans people are experiencing a ‘genocide’ in the midst of everything happening in Palestine, Congo, Sudan etc. The audacity of these people, man…

The syntax, style of writing, and the way ideas are developed and expressed all sound very male. But even if it is a penis brainwashed woman it misses the point. Leabians absolutely want to actively alienate the men who call themselves "trans lesbians". We want them all to fuck off to places they make for themselves and to never enter any space for lesbians (or any other women).

What, exactly would count as a welcoming space for 'pre-op and non-op transfems' if not r/actuallesbians, which has hardly any lesbians in it? The answer can only be: a sub full of actual, female lesbians who proclaim their willingness to sleep with any transbian who deigns to signal ""her"" attraction to said lesbians, while any actual, female lesbian who says 'no' is at once banished to a re-education rape camp Siberia.

Really, whoever you are, whether bepenised or just penis-fixated, fuck off to the far side of fuck, and leave lesbians the fuck alone.

TIMs deserve to be livid with lesbians not wanting them and saying so? Entitled male much?

It seems like common sense that female people who are exclusively attracted to other females exist, and that they deserve a word to describe themselves, and that that word is lesbian.

Newsflash, poser: nobody actually facing genocide would use a grinning emoji when they mention genocide.

I will absolutely alienate creepy men who see me as a prop for their sick fetish.

I hate the 'you like the strap-on' means 'you need to blow me' comments. Truly insufferable. Extremely offensive.

we lesbians?? 🤡🤡

Yeah black is white, the ground is above and sky below, and you're a lesbian.

"I need to believe that women have penises in order to justify my belief that I am a man with a vagina!"

Screechy TIF over here trying to sell TIMs like they're not the human equivalent of a crappy timeshare.

Can someone make a bingo card for posts like these?

"Transmisogyny" is really just another word for "misandry", made to sound more serious than it actually is (aside from just straight-up coopting the word defining the hatred of women and girls).

This is a man writing this.

Checked the user profile. She’s trans ftm.

r/actuallesbians

Archive link

Title: sick of insidious transmisogyny

This is mostly a vent slash plea for help making this sub a better place

First off, it feels like common sense that some women have penises, and yet I’m still seeing ‘penis bad’ all over this sub and other lesbian subs. It’s incredibly alienating to pre and non-op transfems—can we just be normal about this? I really don’t care about your genital preference but have some basic empathy and keep it to yourself, maybe?

Trans people are effectively facing genocide😀The bare minimum we can do as lesbians on the internet is not actively alienate trans lesbians from this space. As lesbians, unwillingness to admit to and engage with our complicity in transmisogyny is unacceptable.

I’m seeing trans women be ignored and condescended to for politely pointing out transmisogyny—in conversations about sex and genitals and beyond. They deserve to be livid, but even the most tone policed attempts at calling people in get downvoted. I’m sure there’s a terf brigade playing a role in that, which only makes it more critical that we listen to and amplify the voices of trans women here.

It is absurd to assume you could never have a transmisogynistic thought or opinion—transphobia is engrained in our culture, and it runs deep. The truth is we are all going to fuck up and say something hurtful to somebody at least once in our lives. We cannot prioritize our own egos and convictions that we are perfect flawless allies over the safety and inclusion of trans women.

Something you wrote ended up being transphobic but that wasn’t your intention? That’s a learning opportunity, an opportunity for humility and gratitude for the folks who take the time to educate you. An opportunity to apologize for any harm you’ve caused, and to go educate yourself further. Responding to a trans person with hostility for disturbing your ego is so childish and small minded. I feel crazy seeing those comments get hundreds of upvotes while transmisogyny continues to be ignored. This space is not exactly welcoming to transfems as it is, and like…we should change that, obviously. It’s just disheartening to see bigotry perpetuated in queer spaces.

Thanks for reading this. Idk if posting this is an effective way to bring about culture change, but I am SO tired of seeing this shit. I think this could be a lovely corner of the internet sans transphobia. Is anyone else noticing this lately? Am I just pointlessly complaining/pandering to the void? Should I fuck off of this site altogether? lmk. Anyway, sending all my love and affection to trans people.