If like me you haven't started calling it the Gulf of America yet, perhaps you can understand why people might choose to opt out of new labels applied to things OR people to further political agendas you don't support or agree with, and can perhaps agree that people shouldn't be punished for refusing to do so. You should even be able to understand why, when people attempt to force you to do so, your reaction is to tell them to 'sit and spin' rather than sweetly comply with a smile.
Sorry, did your own tired bullshit blow up in your face there?
Why are you so upset about this? America and Mexico are social constructs.
And the gulf is literally fluid! 🤣
I mean, that water has literally been circulating across the globe for billions of years!
By this logic, if you insist on continuing to call it the Gulf of Mexico, then you have no problem with "deadnaming" and understand perfectly when and why it's appropriate and correct.
Honestly I’m proud of misgendering the “gulf of America” and males that have a mental illness 🤷♀️
I proudly deadname the Gulf Of Mexico, Twitter, Tim McBride, Bruce Jenner, etc.....
The Gulf was renamed by males with a mental illness, so I guess that Venn diagram is a circle
This was a weird way to find out that Trump renamed the Gulf of Mexico. I suppose not as weird as a 6'7, 45-year-old man renaming himself Neveah and calling himself a little girl, but I don't think I'll be able to look at the map and automatically remember its new name anytime soon.
I have no intention to call it the Gulf of America, nor does anybody else I know.
It sounds so bad, I refuse
So far I’ve seen Axios, Google Maps, and Apple Maps bend the knee.
The fact that they’ve sold out to fascist idiocy tells me all I need to know. It’s infuriating that there’s such a monopoly that you can’t boycott their ass-kissing.
So far from what I know, they’ve only changed it on their maps for US IPs.
Trump will never make me call the Gulf of Mexico something else. The supremist nationalism is increasing and it’s scary.
Yeah, terrible analogy to start w since who is supporting renaming the Gulf of Mexico?
But, if you want to compare, switching names is one thing - for instance I had a friend in college who decided she wanted a more glamorous name than the ones her midwestern parents had given her and chose a new one, and it took me a little while to adapt to it. But as a friend, I eventually did. However, I wouldn't support her birth certificate or old records being altered. A person could get an official name change certificate though, and I don't think names need to be gendered, so a male born John could officially change his name to Jane, and people could call him that. Historical records should include everything though.
This doesn't cover sex change though. That's like a Gulf being renamed an Island or a Mountain. That's not just nominal, it's descriptively inaccurate. Whether it's called the Gulf of Mexico or America is a matter of tradition and ego, and doesn't matter much but seems dumb. But if we started to call it a Mountain and said people who waterskied there were skiing down a mountain, then it would be delusional. No one would accept that - presumably...
You’re right, a name is just a name and unless it’s Sparkletits or His Royal Highness, or you’re naming the street where you live Emptiedriver St., I would tend to roll with the changes. But a man is no more a woman than a gulf is an island.
If you've already started calling it the Gulf of America instead of the Gulf of Mexico, you should have no trouble calling cats "dogs."
For starters, changing the Gulf of Mexico to ‘the Gulf of America’ is cringe and embarrassing. I actually thought he was kidding
But, and damn you for making me at all agree, it’s still not as stupid as calling a man…a woman
It is very US centric to refer to the US as ‘America’ and I try not to do it because it is wrong and it annoys other ‘Americans’ such as those from Canada, Mexico, Central and South America
And
Since the Gulf of Mexico is the biggest gulf in the western hemisphere, and it borders the US and Mexico, (the lands that create the ‘Gulf’) calling it the North American Gulf would actually be more correct than Gulf of Mexico/America
And also, places change names.
What is now Istanbul used to be called Constantinople and before that was called Byzantium. So name changes of places are not anti-reality
Even people change names. Maiden names are changed to married. Celebrities have stage names
This is not the same as saying up is down
nobody ever changes sex
At the time it was named the Gulf of Mexico, hundreds of years ago, Spain controlled all the land surrounding the gulf. Mexico wasn't even a country yet. Mexico City was named after a nearby valley and that is likely where the name came from. Ships traveled across the Gulf of Mexico to get to Mexico City.
The hubris of thinking he has the power to change the name of an international body of water is ridiculous.
Yes
Silly and childish too. But possible
Like a TIM can literally change his name to sparkleboobies
But he can’t change into being a woman
Countries are free to name their bodies of water whatever they want, just as humans are free to name themselves whatever they want.
But pronouns are not names. They are references to objective reality of whether someone is male or female. You can't pick your pronouns.
I agree. And I would like to add that even names of countries can change. I used to travel to a country named Yugoslavia in my youth. It no longer exists. The same area that I knew as one country is now several countries among them Serbia, Bosnia, Slovenia, Croatia. Pronouns are a totally different matter.
No one has even checked with the poor gulf what it identifies as
A nautical hate crime surely