14 comments

crodishMarch 30, 2025

I hate this

angry upvote

001Heart [OP]March 30, 2025

Me too, sigh

OpalsMarch 30, 2025

I don't like this quote... naturally it's a bisexual woman who is taken to be the best person to speak on lesbians

Lesbians are not 'mistaken' for a porn category... the porn category exists to denigrate lesbian sexuality... and lesbianism isn't a civil rights movement... it's a sexual orientation, whether a civil rights movement exists for it or not

Shot_DunyunMarch 30, 2025

It doesn't really hold up to scrutiny, but as a water-cooler remark it's got fuckin' teeth.

OldSchoolDemMarch 30, 2025

Agreed

001Heart [OP]March 30, 2025

Lesbians are not 'mistaken' for a porn category... the porn category exists to denigrate lesbian sexuality...

True.

lesbianism isn't a civil rights movement... it's a sexual orientation, whether a civil rights movement exists for it or not

That's also true. Now that I think about it, calling lesbianism a civil rights movement reminds of the political lesbianism? Reinforcing that lesbianism is a choice and not an inherent sexuality..

I would rephrase this message to say something like this: "Lesbianism is an inherent sexuality that is denigrated to a porn category for heterosexual males. Transgenderism is a porn category extolled as a progressive civil rights movement to protect heterosexual males"

I really like the message that lesbian rights are never taken seriously like trans rights activism AKA men's blatant fetishes colonising lesbian spaces.

CattitudeMarch 30, 2025

Your rephrasing is far better.

001Heart [OP]April 1, 2025

Thank you :)

CattitudeApril 1, 2025

Welcome!

drdeeisbackMarch 31, 2025

Not sure I follow this logic:

'calling lesbianism a civil rights movement reminds of the political lesbianism? Reinforcing that lesbianism is a choice and not an inherent sexuality..'

Agree that lesbianism isn't a civil rights movement (though it is a category protected by civil rights legislation) but how does civil rights imply choice?

001Heart [OP]April 1, 2025

Civil rights do not imply choice; a civil rights movement does, however. Lesbianism is not a social movement with marches and other protests but a sexuality; that's what I meant. And the civil rights movement was for African American rights and had nothing to do with Lesbianism anyways.

VestalVirginMarch 30, 2025

That's true, lesbianism is just a sexual orientation. Claiming it is a civil rights movement makes it appear as though it is a choice to be lesbian (which is is only for bisexuals, who can choose to not act on their attraction to males)

Transgenderism is anti-feminism - claiming that it is a porn category makes it appear less harmful than it actually is. (If the movement were only about advertising the sexual availability of TIMs to regular men, it'd be a lot less harmful to women.)

001Heart [OP]March 30, 2025

Good points 😊

InattentiveGiraffeMarch 30, 2025(Edited March 30, 2025)

Couldn't have said it better myself!