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sylviasmushroomsMarch 15, 2024(Edited March 15, 2024)

Um, so ya girl sylviasmushrooms here may or may not have been playing The Unknown’s cheerleader iteration, and putting the trans flag charm on all of its meathooks because I find all of this just hilarious. 😛

The Unknown’s “girl voice” also sounds like a typical TIM falsetto, which confuses me since I looked up the VA on YouTube and he seems capable of a far more convincing “girl voice” (though it sounds like he’s straining hard to achieve it.) People have pointed out, rightly, that NDAs are a big deal in the world of video game voice-acting and people only usually get vague descriptions when they audition for roles. This is one of many skins that are of both gender presentations; there is also an old lady with garden shears and a barbecue dude, in addition to the default one that looks like Dwight.

Overall I think most of the DBD community, barring a few handmaidens, are of the opinion that this is a pretty big and shameless reach and someone who got PAID for services rendered is trying to ruin a great update by being vain and himself pretty hecking transphobic. He saw a literal monster in a skirt and thought, “that’s a-me! Mario!”

I also have a sneaking suspicion, based on the VAs personal style, that the companion survivor in the release smacked him where it hurt. Sable is a silver-haired and VERY beautifully designed goth girl with a sweet, clearly female voice. EVERYONE is in love with Sable, and honestly she’s as close as DBD will ever come to every TIM’s aspirational fantasy of being the anime goth gf, uwu.

I said this in the other post about this, but his implosion and walking it back in a desperate attempt to save his career has been super funny. And BHVR would be well within their rights to recast the role, unceremoniously remove his voice credit, and release a redub in a patch. Ungrateful, vain grifters aren’t worth working with, and TIMs especially are just never fucking happy, whether a character “looks trans” or not it will never live up to their entitled ideal.

OwnLyingEyesMarch 15, 2024

The image of this thing draped in trans flags running around in the game made me laugh until I cried.

pennygadgetMarch 15, 2024

The image of this thing draped in trans flags running around in the game made me laugh until I cried.

"ROAR Validate me!!! I just wanna PEEEEE!!!"

🤣

OwnLyingEyesMarch 15, 2024

"HOW DO YOU DO, FELLOW LAYDEEEZZZZZ?"

"No one has ever confronted me about being in the women's bathroom! #transpassing"

"I WASN'T INVITED TO THE SLUMBER PARTY, RAWRGH!!!!"

pennygadgetMarch 15, 2024

"I WASN'T INVITED TO THE SLUMBER PARTY, RAWRGH!!!!"

"DON'T RUN!!! I JUST WANNA HAVE A GIRLY LINGERIE PILLOW FIGHT WITH YOU!!!"

OwnLyingEyesMarch 16, 2024

"COME BACK! WOULD YOU LIKE A FRESH TAMPON???"

pennygadgetMarch 16, 2024

"COME BACK! WOULD YOU LIKE A FRESH TAMPON???"

Ok. You win the thread!

🤣🤣🤣

OwnLyingEyesMarch 16, 2024

And yet we all lost something, having that mental image.

sylviasmushroomsMarch 15, 2024

I wish, WISSSSH, you could have two killers on the map at once. I would have the Cenobite (Pinhead from Hellraiser) out there, reminding everyone that:

YOU SUMMONED ME

and

YOU OPENED THIS BOX.

When they came out with all of the pride charms they probably should have realized that someday people would find creative uses for it besides “wheeee support!”

Ave_LucifugeMarch 15, 2024(Edited March 15, 2024)

Pinhead, immediately noping out after seeing the TQ Pride parade:

THIS ISN'T FOR MY EYES

DerpinaMarch 15, 2024

🤣🤣🤣🤣

pennygadgetMarch 15, 2024

Pinhead, immediately noping out after seeing the TQ Pride parade:

THIS ISN'T FOR MY EYES

Pinhead would LOVE Pride parades! All the people there dress just like him! 🤣

sylviasmushroomsMarch 15, 2024

Nonsense, Pride parades are extreme EVEN BY THE ANGEL OF MASOCHISM’S STANDARDS!

Pinhead, sweet baby, must be protected. Shield his eyes.

magicianly7March 15, 2024

He saw a literal monster in a skirt and thought, “That’s-a me! Mario!”

this made me laugh IRL thank you

pennygadgetMarch 15, 2024

That line was masterful 🤣

OnlyHumanMarch 15, 2024(Edited March 15, 2024)

It's funny you mentioned the girl voice. When I first heard the VA I immediately assumed the goal was a creepy not-human voice that was trying to imitate a female (and that it was made by one VA who was not female). Which is something that would, you know, fit the concept of scary monster trying to imitate humans. But now with the new context I guess my ears were transphobic 😅

TheKnittaMarch 15, 2024

I also have a sneaking suspicion, based on the VAs personal style, that the companion survivor in the release smacked him where it hurt. Sable is a silver-haired and VERY beautifully designed goth girl with a sweet, clearly female voice. EVERYONE is in love with Sable, and honestly she’s as close as DBD will ever come to every TIM’s aspirational fantasy of being the anime goth gf, uwu.

Ah, now it all becomes clear! Absolutely hilarious, and the whole thing couldn’t show the miserable skinwalker attitude (IRL) of TIMs better. Beautiful, just beautiful!

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TurtlefuzzMarch 15, 2024

From his statement in link 3

I feel that reparations from the team that deliberately tricked me is the only logical next choice of action.

They always want money. He doesn't ask for sn apology. Just money. They tell on themselves every single time.

MaryDyerMarch 15, 2024

The fact that he phrased it as “reparations” is hilarious. Like he’s a black guy whose ancestors were slaves, and not some privileged white man in a dress who did some voice acting 😆

TheKnittaMarch 15, 2024

That he was paid for like every other voice actor! What ‘reparations’ does he need?!

The endless stealing of other people’s struggles is classic TRAs.

pennygadgetMarch 16, 2024

For real. Nobody put a gun to his head and made him take the job.

EVERY professional actor has some stuff on their resume that they're embarrassed by and wish they could erase. Its part of being in the industry. If this guy is so upset by this, it won't be hard for the game devs to release a patch in the future to replace his voice with someone else.

Ave_LucifugeMarch 15, 2024(Edited March 15, 2024)

I thought the design of Unknown was probably DBDs best yet, and now I love it even more! Horror has always been the best at honest social commentary 🤣

E: Just saw his statement, TIM is absolutely delusional (I know, redundant) if he thinks this will make anyone recognize him in public. People will laugh and then forget about him.

OnlyHumanMarch 15, 2024
  • nobody knows what VAs look like, only what they sound like

Which leads me to point two:

  • if you're such a talented VA just use a different voice in public
pennygadgetMarch 15, 2024

Just saw his statement, TIM is absolutely delusional (I know, redundant) if he thinks this will make anyone recognize him in public. People will laugh and then forget about him.

Bro seriously thinks he's on the level of Troy Baker and Laura Bailey. 🤣

EdelgardMarch 15, 2024

I don't play this game, but I'm willing to bet that they were trying to pander to the trans crowd as all game devs do, and it backfired spectacularly.

I have no idea why, though. First of all, this character dresses better and is more feminine than most TIMs. Secondly, absolutely no one who didn't already think of trans dudes as ugly men in dresses was going to make this connection. It's not like the character is canonically trans.

RandomRhinoMarch 15, 2024

First of all, this character dresses better and is more feminine than most TIMs.

I can't, man. The worst part is that it's true.

DoubleAntandreMarch 15, 2024

He also provided the male lines--says so in his statement.

starlight_chaserMarch 16, 2024

How very strange he was willing to do both. I thought dysphoria means if you're perceived as the wrong gender, it causes extreme discomfort and pain, thus needing everyone in the world to participate in your chosen gender. Not if you're paid I suppose.

RandomRhinoMarch 15, 2024

That makes it even more hilarious imho!

JellyfishesMarch 15, 2024

Did he delete his post? Cause all I can find is a backtracking where he urges people to not boycott 😂😂 His career and money are more important than this terrible psychological damage it seems

https://archive.is/m7wou

pennygadgetMarch 15, 2024

The damage is done. Nobody will want to hire this asshole now. 🤣

somegenerichandleMarch 15, 2024(Edited March 15, 2024)

So they didn't hire Sweet Baby Inc? j/k I just think it's annoying the voice actor wanted them to hire DEI experts.

I mean... are we allowed to be ticked off at offensive portrayals of women?

And you really have to be into video games to recognize the voice actors. Is he really having this issue? It's probably just people he already knew. I mean, i can only think i'd be happy to meet John Cleese who voices Sir Cadwell in ESO, but i already knew who he was when he got the role. Though, dang if i could pick him out in a crowd.

pennygadgetMarch 15, 2024

This dude is a nobody when it comes to video game VAs. Nobody is assaulting him in the street because he played an offensive monster in a zombie game.

If he is facing harassment, its from his fellow TIMs and TRAs throwing tantrums at him and demanding he sink his own career just to make a stink about this

somegenerichandleMarch 15, 2024

I'm actually pretty used to that. it's the way academia is going. I get moving away from female as a noun or from 'lady doctor', but yeah women staff, women doctors, etc does sound weird. Using women as an adjective is weird. I just think it's redundant as it'd be pretty hard to be a doctor who wasn't an adult human. 🤷🏽‍♀️

DerpinaMarch 15, 2024

John Cleese who voices Sir Cadwell in ESO

They even got his german voice to voice german Cadwell 😍

LionessMarch 15, 2024

This is all hilarious. These people always say they want "representation", but what they truly want is fantasy and delusion.

You chose to voice a monster, dude. It's not going to be a teenage girl. You're lucky they stuck it in a skirt at all.

Lemonade_MasqueradeMarch 15, 2024

I remember when Cyberpunk came out and there was whining about how trans people were being "fetishized" because there were objectifying billboards of ""women"" with dicks. Like... oh, I thought you wanted to be treated like women are?*

*(I mean, I don't even think most of what was said was genuine backlash. If they weren't getting off on being objectified, they were just your typical straight male gamer who gets upset when something gets in the way of enjoying the sexy pixel ladies they're entitled to. But that's beside the point)

TheKnittaMarch 15, 2024

I think it’s an accidental ooopsie by a game company who perhaps tried to employ woke, and totally didn’t think about how the Permanently Offended would take it.

That’ll learn ‘em. Far easier to avoid employing these nutjobs.

pennygadgetMarch 15, 2024

I think it’s an accidental ooopsie by a game company who perhaps tried to employ woke, and totally didn’t think about how the Permanently Offended would take it.

Thats exactly what it was. They thought a TIM was perfect for a character who morphs between male and female forms. But they didn't count on the fact that TRAs are never satisfied and no amount of pandering is good enough.

The main lesson here is that its not worth it to hire gender-specials. They will inevitably slander their employers on social media over some petty bullshit that could have easily been handled privately

syntaxerrorMarch 15, 2024

That’ll learn ‘em. Far easier to avoid employing these nutjobs.

So many companies seem to have to learn this lesson the hard way. Which is weird. Look at previous examples, but also gee, appealing to people who literally go looking for reasons to be offended doesn’t strike some execs or higher ups as just bad business practices?

pennygadgetMarch 16, 2024

Not only that. TIPs will IMMEDIATELY run to social media to complain about minor workplace squabbles that can easily be solved in private. If one elderly janitor misgenders them and isn't immediately fired for it, they will screech to their followers on TikTok and demand that their employer be canceled. They will try to weaponize an internet lynch mob against their boss if they don't get unlimited paid time off for their gender surgeries. And NOTHING an employer does is ever enough to satisfy them

Hiring trans people is just asking for a nightmare HR & PR situation down the road

TheKnittaMarch 15, 2024

I guess looking woke and those Stonewall ratings (in the UK at least) must be really some hot prizes. Hotter than your business succeeding, even.

Always thought business was weird ;)

magicianly7March 15, 2024

that guy’s ramble about how he had no idea until now sounds fake… i know that can happen with VAs where they don’t know what they’re voicing, but there’s like, no sense of urgency in how he feels “so attacked.” it sounds like a marketing ploy he’s in on if anything like to get more people talking about the game

delicate_silicateMarch 15, 2024

Right? I bet the lines were pretty telling. I don't play the game so I don't know what type of lines the killers say, but I bet they're not very nice. Probably a bit creepy and violent? He knew.

syntaxerrorMarch 15, 2024(Edited March 15, 2024)

Yeah it absolutely could be a bad marketing ploy. A lot of companies are trying out “shocking” ads nowadays just so people will talk about their product (which is really all advertising is—getting people to remember a brand name).

I dunno. Isn’t this game already pretty popular and full of “woke” people? May have just been an earnest misstep, which I chose to believe because that makes it far funnier

Mystical_SongstressMarch 15, 2024

Is it like in Legacy where the tim character literally sounds like a dude?

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OneStarWolfMarch 15, 2024

Just another example showing us why you should never hire toxic and narcissistic pronoun people.

DerpinaMarch 15, 2024

And of course he had to paddle back btw

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