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Why are some GC people so adamant to have "pet transes" to show around like a circus pony? And of course AGP-in-chief here is not gonna say no to free attention, that's a AGPs bread and butter after all.

No other movement does that shit either. Pro gay people don't have a pet homophobe to prove they're not hateful against homophobes, the trans don't have pet GC people etc etc.

Why should we only be able to fight for our human rights by supporting a pet trans in womanface????

Pro gay people don't have a pet homophobe to prove they're not hateful against homophobes

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Pro-women people, i.e. feminists and feminist allies, don't need pet misogynists to prove they're not hateful against misogynists. I'm quite happy to be hateful against misogynists, to be perfectly honest, especially when 'including' these full-time fetishistic parodies excludes the women you're supposed to be fighting for.

Here's transwidows on it:

I’ve been contacted by a trans widow today who would like to go to a local feminist event, but can’t go. Why? Because her ex is going to be on the platform talking about inclusion of women like him #transwidows

2 1/2 years since I wrote this: “Don’t exclude some women from feminism in the interests of inclusiveness. Imagine seeking support from other women, only to find that your husband or father had got there first?”

Well apparently it feels just as shit as I imagined it would.

Every woman who has platformed or promoted our exes because they felt it was politically expedient to do so: this is on you. I hope you think it was worth it. #transwidows

And said trans widow can’t talk about this publicly because she’s still being coercively controlled via her ongoing divorce proceedings.

While her ex goes into schools to talk about inclusion, speaks at feminist events and participates in documentaries.

And again:

What makes running #Transwidows Voices so difficult, is not hearing women’s stories of abuse,you learn to distance yourself from that to reduce the effect on your mental health,it’s seeing people who identify as our “allies” lauding and platforming men like our exes

“When you allow our ex partners space in your feminism and give them platforms in your organisations and at your meetings, you exclude their wives, daughters, sisters and mothers from accessing these spaces..that were set up to support them”. - from A Plea for Help for Feminists from a Trans Widow

I can't understand the 'feminists' who keep doing this. I just can't.

[–] crodish fujoshit 15 points

It's part of the process to peaking I think. I mean there really are some women who absolutely shut it down right away and that's admirable, but I always wanted to compromise and be nice and kind of be like, "see, I don't hate them! We agree! Why can't we all get along?" Female socialization and trying really hard not to be the bad guy, basically, and also not thinking deeply about it enough. Transwidows Voices really opened my eyes to realizing there is absolutely no middle ground and no compromise, not when there's unseen women getting hurt by these men all the time.

When these "allies" demand special exceptions for themselves because they said all the right things, they've effectively become hypocrites. I won't ally with hypocrites. Walk the talk.

You're right female socialisation is one hell of a drug! I remember firmly thinking that calling them men is mean 🤡 however most GC is see pushing these pet transes are men...

[–] crodish fujoshit 10 points Edited

Took me about 4 years to peak from "true trans" and preferred pronouns. Just keep shouting, I guess. I learnt from women constantly telling me how wrong I was lol

And to think I once allied with and defended this pervert.

[–] Turtlefuzz Gender Outlaw 🤠 8 points

I did also. I'm willing to give most people a chance to prove themselves, whether it's that they're a good person or bad. Once I saw what he said, in his own words, I was convinced he isn't any different than other AGPs; he's just better at deflection.

Yes. I bet he gets off on being radfem women's token gendercock.

Bingo. From JL's Meaningful Transition article:

Hayton and Harrison both have a history of championing the ‘rights’ of men who claim to be women to be treated as such and to intrude into women’s spaces. A teacher and trade unionist, Hayton contributed to guidance on Trans Equality in Schools and Colleges which states that ‘Trans teachers should be free to use toilets appropriate to their acquired gender’. A self-confessed autogynephile, he supports access to ‘gender reassignment’ and has called for the ‘de-stigmatisation’ of his paraphilia.

How is this different from "trans rights activism"?? This is worse than just saying you're a woman. He's just a plain old TRA.....

For years transsexuals have been quietly included by women, either as a right if we have a GRC or by consent in many cases: in my own, where there is no GRC. And in real life women do include me in their spaces because they say they want me to be there.

Again, let that sink in. ‘Women do include me in their spaces because they say they want me to be there’. As with Harrison’s comment above, this statement was made plainly from the platform of a group supposedly committed to preserving women’s single-sex spaces, without a murmur of dissent from the audience.

.....except worse because he does so while saying he's "GC" - so not only is he a man larping as a woman, he's a TRA larping as GC - and getting feminists to stroke his gendercock (ha!) whenever his gender feefees get hurt. It's honestly quite embarrassing watching feminists in his comment section, knowing he gets off on it 🤦🏽‍♀️

DH is just a trut - he never was on the side of women, he just acknowledges his cognitive dissonance and ploughs on regardless.

We don't even need to rely on hearsay, hasn't he admitted that he is listed as female in his passport and he continues to use female toilets?

"tell the rad fems" vs. "don't tell the rad fems"

Inspired by this Spinster post, of 100% based drawing by DrawingEggen on Twitter

DH looks like your average hippie teacher. He could wear a sweater to cover his moobs and khakis with holes in them and shitty sneakers like the rest of his fellow male hippie teachers.

(My house is made of shatter-proof glass).

DH is not GC like Miranda Yardley. What he is doing is promoting the middle ground fallacy: 2 + 2 = 4.5 instead of 4 or 5.

It can be boiled down to him agreeing that men should not be in women's sports. But women should not have male-free spaces, they should be at least socially compelled to "Be Kind" and his students must witness his fetish.

Lol what this guy?

The guy who campaigns for special fetish toilets? As if this is where taxpayers' money should go... The dude also apparently denounced feminists for calling out Orlander when he started grifting.

Do you realise you're literally doing the same thing as some women do with DH, just with a different fetishist? What does it take for it to sink in that none of these parodies are 'gc', let alone allies to women?

ps "(My house is made of shatter-proof glass)" haha bit of a hippy yourself are you?

I thought MY detransitioned? I'm not on Spinster so I missed all that.

ps "(My house is made of shatter-proof glass)" haha bit of a hippy yourself are you?

You can't prove that.

I'm not (active) on Spinster either, but after he featured in the whole AGP "we ARE the movement" incident, I searched up on him.

Anyway, they're all the same.

Harrison and Hayton ingratiate themselves at WPUK meetings through linguistic manoeuvres which involve making claims to their legitimate and customary accommodation within the social group ‘women’ whilst simultaneously acknowledging that they are male. This combination appears to entirely bamboozle WPUK audiences, causing them to lose their critical faculties and instead endorse the men’s utterances with rapturous applause and approving – if nonsensical – comments: ‘Kristina knows she’s male!’ ‘Kristina acknowledges that sex is different to gender and that she is a transwoman’.

From the A Meaningful Transition? article by the ever-excellent Dr Julia Long.

What is clear, however, is what they wish such a claim to achieve. According to Kristina Harrison, this ‘meaningful transition’:

not only helps us to fit into an opposite sex social reality… but also goes some way to putting many women at greater ease at having male-born people in their spaces.

Let that sink in. ‘Putting women at ease at having male-born people in their spaces’. Here is a man speaking to a group of women supposedly committed to protecting women’s single-sex spaces, making his ambition to access those spaces abundantly clear, and being rewarded with fulsome praise and applause.

And here is Hayton:

For years transsexuals have been quietly included by women, either as a right if we have a GRC or by consent in many cases: in my own, where there is no GRC. And in real life women do include me in their spaces because they say they want me to be there.

Again, let that sink in. ‘Women do include me in their spaces because they say they want me to be there’. As with Harrison’s comment above, this statement was made plainly from the platform of a group supposedly committed to preserving women’s single-sex spaces, without a murmur of dissent from the audience.

And here's JCJ agreeing with that.

That's what these men are here to do. To colonise the movement with their perverted fetishistic entitlement, as they have done since the beginning, to ingratiate themselves into women's meetings and spaces, causing women to forget what even they are fighting for, and even to start fighting for the opposite.

re hippy: hahahah i'm probs too young for the hippy scene (is there a prime hippy age?) but dworkin mentions flower children of the 60s and i've been reading up and 👀 😂

[–] immersang 0 points Edited

Lol what this guy?

I don't know much about Yardley / his personal life, but "he used to be married to a woman and has a daughter" is not a great argument against him being gay. (RE: The Spinster post you linked to.) There have always been gay men who struggled with their sexuality in the past, thought they could force themselves into a straight marriage, but ended up coming out later in life. I'm fairly certain that he dated a fellow TIM at some point or still does.

The point wasn't re his sexual orientation. I could not give two shits. The point is that they lie and obfuscate, and on top of that made a trans widow out of his ex and had a daughter, and if you read their stories, you will know what that entails.

Yes, apparently he's with another fetishistic larper. I believe that's called GAMP AGP. Okay? Again, I just don't care. The first chance he got, he defends another larper over feminists, and campaigns for fetish toilets. How is this GC? Let alone feminist? These are just men at the end of the day, just men who hate women more than the average man- which is saying a lot considering the average male.