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Advice neededIs this recruiter jerking me around?
Posted June 29, 2022 by [Deleted] in STEM

So I was approached a by a recruiter for possible job opportunity a while back. The position looked interesting, hybrid working and a good salary. So I respond to the message.

We have a call and the recruiter is immediately trying to negotiate me down to a few hundred below the listed salary (not a listed range, but a fixed amount). I told her I don't want to do that.

I get invited for the first interview round. The interview goes well, till we get to the end. There they say my expected salary is too high. They can offer me a max amount that is even lower than what the recruiter was trying to negotiate me down to.

After the interview I call the recruiter back and say that I consider the salary too low and that I am not willing to continue the interview process. Recruiter is annoyed with them and says she'll call me back. A week later she comes back with a number slightly, higher, but still much lower than what she iniatially approached me with even still lower than what she had first tried to negotiate me down to. But she says, after a few months they will raise it based on performance. I tell her the contract is initially temp, it's perfomance based anyway and I would like that raise garanteed. She calls me back after a few hours and tells me "Good news" they agree to garantee me the raise after a few months upon a good performance.

I feel like nothing has changed, but they just reworded it slighly. I have agreed to a second interview. The salary is significantly higher than what I currently make and the working conditions and benefits are better too.

But this whole thing is leaving such a bad taste in my mouth. I now feel really torn. I am no longer happy at my current employer, so I had planned to start applying for jobs in a few months anyway. I responded to this, because it seemed like a good opportunity. But the whole salary issue is making me somewhat less than exited, eventhough it would be a definite improvement on my current situation.

I could use some input.

Edit: I have canceled the second interview. I told her I was unhappy with the process up untill the point. She told me that I couldn't hope to make as much as I was asking for. I reminded her that she approached me with this number.

They were definitely jerking me around. If anyone was in this position I would have advised them to call it off likewise. It can be so hard to follow your own advise.

25 comments

ElectricBlueFebruary 2, 2023

The fact that scientific journals and reputable news outlets are now reporting on the existence of souls, which are able to be placed in the wrong body, is possibly the weirdest thing about this.

ArmyofMeFebruary 2, 2023

I had a “gender identity” training at work where the presenter, a TIF, said that all medical and scientific associations and organizations agree that gender identity is innate from birth and doesn’t change.

Like, there was so much wrong in that statement it blew my mind. These are philosophical concepts.

yikesforeverFebruary 2, 2023

”Gender identity” is also kinda just personality... And some of that is certainly innate but it's just personality it's not a special gender soul. It doesn't change how your physical body should be, that is the ridiculous part.

jadegreenFebruary 2, 2023(Edited February 2, 2023)

A Harry Potter fanfic author I used to follow decided to integrate the Trans into his story by introducing Gender Souls - i literally thought he was trolling the TRAs til his authors note ragging on Rowling - because his language used in his fic so clearly mirrored how TERFs make fun of the Trans. It was top tier unintentional parody.

So I left a dirty review telling him how as a trans woman I was really offended he was quoting Rowling's transphobia (she mentioned the concept in the Suzanne Moore interview) and he was being a bad ally 😁😁😁

There were a bunch of other reviews from people who stopped reading and seeing how he makes money off his fanfiction that made me happy how the upset reviews outweighed the "trans rights are human rights" reviews.

pennygadgetFebruary 2, 2023

A Harry Potter fanfic author I used to follow decided to integrate the Trans into his story by introducing Gender Souls

And I'll bet this same guy will rant about how stupid religious people are for believing in a "Sky Daddy". But he's super logical for believing that everyone has an internal gender spirit.

iCONICFemale RageFebruary 2, 2023(Edited February 2, 2023)

Most "atheists" substitute sky daddy with gender identity, the soul-like aspect of an individual that can be "born in the wrong body"

I do not believe the mind to be something immaterial that transcends the material in or out of utero. The brain is all there is

True wisdom should require us (atheists) to reject the gender identity that disparages the body and triggers unnecessary self-loathing within the individual, as we reject the other religious beliefs

stabbyFebruary 3, 2023

I agree somewhat - I think it's part of innate human nature to seek a higher power, whether it's religion or the current state of identity politics or any other cult, especially if they were raised in a religion. I think people need a purpose and want to know they're good people, but for whatever reason they can't figure it out themselves so they get lured into a cause seems to resonate with them. I also think that with the rise of the internet and the fall of widespread religion (at least in the West), people are also lacking community in a real tangible way. Why not get sucked into the cult of gender woo? You are doing the right thing fighting for marginalized people, you have a built in social circle and lots of events to go to/be involved in, and you can all hate on those evil TERFs trying to bring you down.

CaeruleaFebruary 3, 2023

Most "atheists" substitute sky daddy with gender identity

????????? I don't think this is true at all. Actually, I have the impression that a lot of radfems are non-religious.

pennygadgetFebruary 3, 2023

??????? I don't think this is true at all. Actually, I have the impression that a lot of radfems are non-religious.

Clearly, not ALL atheists are TRAs. But the ones who make atheism their entire identity (to the point where they can't go five minutes without shitting on religious people) tend to fall HARD into genderwoo and other insane far left political movements.

CaeruleaFebruary 3, 2023

Sure, but I don't think those make up a majority of atheists

iCONICFemale RageFebruary 3, 2023(Edited February 3, 2023)

Allow me to clarify

Most "atheists," outside GC communities, joined the cult of gender identity. That's been my experience in "atheist" communities

This wasn't about us, the small subset of the population enlightened by radical feminism

CaeruleaFebruary 3, 2023

Perhaps that is where the disagreement lies. In my country most people are atheists; they don't gather in specific "atheist communities". It's just not a thing.

iCONICFemale RageFebruary 3, 2023

Where are you from, if you don't mind me asking?

CaeruleaFebruary 3, 2023

Northern Europe

shewolfoffranceFebruary 2, 2023

that made me happy how the upset reviews outweighed the "trans rights are human rights" reviews

Every time there's an article about trans-anything, the comments are 75-90% very basic, obvious, common sense (if the comment section is left open).

pennygadgetFebruary 2, 2023

It is so wild how history repeats itself.

I'm just waiting for another Scopes Monkey Trial to happen when some teacher inevitably gets in trouble for teaching the concept of male and female.

MandyFebruary 2, 2023

Back to the Dark Ages....

KaboodleFebruary 2, 2023(Edited February 2, 2023)

I can’t believe in a religious soul or a spiritual aura any more than a gender identity. I await my inevitable stoning in the public square / burning at the stake.

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a_shrubFebruary 2, 2023

I would think someone born into the wrong body should be really concerned with finding the rightful owner and returning it.

SakuraBlossomsFebruary 2, 2023

You can flip to a random page in a dictionary and pick a random word, and there's a man somewhere with a fetish for it. Men have every single fetish imaginable. Except the common fetishes of crossdressing and pretending to be female, those are IMPOSSIBLE.

tori_danielleFebruary 2, 2023(Edited February 2, 2023)

Exactly. Men have fetishized every single facet of womanhood. Gender itself is a sexist tool of oppression that has been pushed on women by men since the beginning of time. “Femininity” is how we are oppressed by them. It’s sexist and fetishistic by nature. The accessibility of porn has only exacerbated it. If you can name it, there’s a man with a fetish for it.

I was arguing with a trans-identified female on this exact thing just yesterday about trans women demanding access to women’s’ bathrooms, prisons, etc not because they want to be validated in their “gender”, but because they want to use women to play out their sexual fantasies in public. She wouldn’t admit that this is a pervasive issue in trans women spaces, specifically to do with heterosexual men who claim to be women. She wanted sources for my claims and when I provided them, said that ‘autogynephelia’ was just a word created by a random guy. Like yeah, that’s how words work. We create them to describe certain patterns and phenomena. I asked her multiple times if she was discounting that this ever happens and she wouldn’t answer me. It’s just mind boggling how even TIFs don’t want to see this stuff because they think it’s an attack on THEM personally. They’d rather defend straight men with fetishes before ever considering the safety of women.

[Deleted]February 3, 2023

My brother was playing video games and was telling me about necromorphs in it. So I look it up, sure enough, there’s a bunch of sexy necromorphs…

NovemberinthechairFebruary 2, 2023

Good one, Matt.