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CareerHired with ulterior motives, part 3
Posted November 26, 2022 by AnneDoe in STEM

Hello again gyns

I posted about a month ago in this forum regarding a too-good-to-be-true remote IT job. I deleted my posts just in case. You might remember this https://ovarit.com/o/STEM/148625/deleted

Here's a quick rundown:

  • My boss V is a creepy middleaged incel who was overly nice to me at first, from constant "hey, whats up?" kinds of messages where he'd ignore me when I replied out of politeness, sent to my email and even telegram despite me never communicating with him through telegram or even telling him i had an account there, to even sending a book to my house without me asking for it

  • V at first DM'ed me constantly, wanting to know how I was doing, if I needed any help with tickets, and what I thought of other coworkers. He asks me this constantly and if I have any complaints. I tell him everything is fine. Keep this in mind for later. He would also "warn" me about some coworkers, who might not be so nice, according to him. One of these coworkers is A, whom B also hates. Keep this in mind.

  • V is having an affair with our coworker B, a clearly mentally unstable woman in her 30s with zero qualifications despite doing this job for 2 years. Before this job, she was working at McDonalds and before then she wqs a tourist guide.

  • She DMs me constantly, talks in an embarrassing teenage slang to me reminiscent of that meme "How do you do fellow kids?", owns a Tamagochi that she interrupts meetings to feed. Her favorite topic in the world is V, "V is great!", "V is a great leader", "V teaches really well!" V,V,V,V,V, and then she'll ask me if I agree, what I think of V, etc, to which I will give evasive answers. One time she picked one of my tickets and told me "You should show it to V, he would be proud!". She is always trying to get me to talk to V, it feels as if I am being recruited to a cult of V. She doesn't know how to do anything without asking V or one of the guys, her default answer to anything that deviates a milimetre from the basic things V taught her and held her hand through a milion times is "let's ask V!", she's completely incapable of doing anything else. Forget advanced IT topics, she lacks critical knowledge in even basic topics a CS freshman would know. She takes private, paid Python classes. You can't make this up. The only reason she doesn't fuck up and cause the company considerable damage is because V keeps an eye on everything she does, in exchange for having his dick sucked. She has in the past fucked up so badly it almost landed it company many lawsuits but the guys put out this fire in time.

  • I pretty much stopped interacting with her soon after my onboarding, but she would still message me constantly. If I missed a meeting or was late, she would message me about it. She would also message me about tickets, despite me not asking for her opinion. Later I found, she would report everything back to V. She was essentially spying on me for V. I have stopped answering to her DMs, but even then she keeps dming and trying to start conversation. She tries to engage with me during meetings and asks me personal questions even around other colleagues, to which I reply evasively. She has made condescending remarks about me being from the province, and even told me to "come to the office and steal a chair" because she deemed my chair wasn't good enough.

  • At first V would talk to me in a condescending and patronizing way and deliberately ignored me during meetings. If I asked a technical question in the chat, he'd give me a condescending answer and say something like "you could do X, but it's not easy!". He'd talk to me like a literal child.

-none of my coworkers took me seriously at first, and this was obvious from their attitudes. They knew V only hired me to fuck me

  • several times he and the team tried to goad me into making mistakes, because they assumed I lacked technical knowledge. I don't, and didn't fall for it. These mistakes would have been embarrassing and potentially costly to the company, possibly even result in lawsuits. They would absolutely damage my reputation.

  • I began working on my own, and as it turns out, I'm exceptionally good at what I do. I knew I'd be qualified, but not this good honestly. Unwittingly, V actually hired the right person. At this point his attitude changed completely. He became a lot less friendly and began avoiding me. He'd try to nitpick at my tickets, but there wasn't much he could go from.

  • V went on parental leave about a month ago, and left J in his place. J is an insufferable incel who made no effort to hide his disdain for me before I even started. There are more people on the team more qualified to take over than J, but they don't suck V's dick enough I suppose

This was a quick rundown of what I talked about in my deleted posts, now onwards:

J, like B, has an unrelated degree and much less technical knowledge than the others (A for example). The others don't seem to take him that seriously either. I have an unfinished CS degree from a shit province university that makes recruiters throw my cv in the trash. V hired me because he thought I'd be unqualified. Do you see a pattern? V is hiring people he expects to be unqualified and who won't be hired by anyone else, sonhe can train them, make them depend on him and turn them into his yes men. His education is also suspiciously missing from his Linkedin page, despite him having his degrees on his shelf on display during meetings. His technical knowledge isn't that outstanding either, and he seems more like a middle manager with lots of contacts than an engineer.

J was on a power trip during V's leave, during which he would publicly try embarrass me and call me out during meetings over made up mistakes only for me to show proof he was wrong, he would tell me "good job" and then post criticisms on my tickets which reveal he hadn't actually read them. He would be exceptionally rude to me, on PUBLIC chats the whole team, including other teams and our bosses, have access to. Of course, I screenshot everything. Someone must've told him to knock it off because he stopped all of a sudden. Honestly I don't think he plays with a full deck, much like B and V.

There was this one week where I was feeling particularly tired and unmotivated, and overslept. I missed some of our (pointless) meetings with J and B. This happened several times. Of course they reported back to V, who told me I have an "attitude problem", and that my colleages, who've been on this for some years (despite being both shit), felt "disrespected".

One of these meetings is a recurrent peer-review that is a new addition. The reason was that before, we were supposed to get V's ok on a certain operation before going ahead. B fucked up, and didn't. So now we have to waste our Tuesday mornings with this shit that before wouldn't have taken more than a DM to V.

So important point, we have these conferences and meetups. Harrassing someone remotely is difficult and leaves evidence, so V and B are constantly trying to get me to attend. I keep making excuses. So far I havent.

The worst thing about this and the major point of concern, is that ever since the first meetup shortly before I started, V has been telling me to talk to him about "logistics". Meaning, "he" needs to arrange an hotel room for me. I say he, because he told me I should talk to him directly and he will take care of it for me! He's said this in front of the team, and was met with awkward silence. B too asks me constantly about if I am going to x or y conference, and to talk to V about "logistics". The way they say it makes me feel as if are going to put me in a shipping container.

Today I had a short meeting with V and asked him casually how to proceed when booking hotels, am I suposed to ask HR about it and make arrangements with them? And he said "no no, you talk to me and I will arrange it with this girl who takes care of those things, it was one girl but she left and now its another one but I don't remember her name because I haven't been to the office in a long time haha"

So many alarm bells rang in my head when he said this. (I recorded everything by the way, but idk if I should do anything with it)

Needless to say, he just erased any inclination I might've had to go to these conferences. I spent the whole afternoon looking over my shoulder. His remark brought to mind a strange comment B made one time. We were talking about the town I go to for college, and she knew the area and was telling me a out places to see. She mentioned a jogging track that leads to an isolated are in the countryside and advised me to avoid it at night, because it was "sinister" and if something were to happen to me I'd be alone and no one would hear me. This remark was really strange and cme seemingly out of nowhere. She like V is also always trying to goad me to come over to the office and to conferences, and also uses the expression "logistics".

I'm utterly terrified.

This week the employees of my country's branch had to undergo a mandatory training session on workplace harrassment. The key takeaways:

  • there's an anonymous platform but,

  • the company can't do anything without enough information (namely the identities of all parties involved and all the details), which defeats the purpose of the anon platform in these situations, unless the allegation is made by a 3rd party i guess

  • false allegations will be punished

The lawyer dude who gave the training stopped several times and asked if anyone had any questions. There were more than 100 people in the call, but no one talked. He did this several times and there was silence except for about 3 people. He said he was surprised, that usually there's at least a few questions but there was barely anything in this one. Very sus.

To wrap this up, right now my game plan is to stick around, string V along by leading him to think I'll ever go to one of those meetups, use all the cool stuff and tools the company gives me (including the best computer I've ever used), a great amount of knowledge and data to play with, and otherwise impossibly expensive or very exclusive tools and databases to gain as much experience and knowledge as I can. Besides, this looks great on my CV.

Sooner or later I am going to get fired. I don't know if they can do it before the end of my contract (September). Until then I will attend every meeting, do my tickets diligently, and cram and learn as much as I can. This was my 3rd month with them, I don't think i will be fired just yet. I think V will figure out what's up by around month 6th, but by then I'll be able to pass this off as a 6 month internship.

I've also been talking to D, the leader of IT teams. He asked me to send him tickets I've been working on. I've sent him quite a few. I'll ask him for a recommendation letter in the future. D's name alone seems to inspire fear in V and B.

This job has been taking a toll on me mentally, I am not going to lie. I will try my best to stick around until month 6, and then I might quit, or "soft quit". I don't think they'll renew my contract but even if they do, fuck it, I'm out.

This situation makes me feel like shit. All the IT jobs I've had so far were kind of like this, with creepy bosses with ulterior motives, boys clubs I will never be a part of, and generally being treated like shit. I burned out in college.

Anyway, I just wanted to vent. It's 4:30 am and I can't sleep. I've had trouble sleeping for some time now.

Maybe this is normal in IT but it feels like I will be trapped in this limbo for the rest of mt life, being hired just to be bullied by the boys club, getting stuck with shit jobs, and being fired because of my "attitude". I see guys my age with much less talent and motivation and they get by like it's no problem.

To wrap this up, I believe one of the driving motivations behind me being in this situation is V wanting to show off to the other guys by sexually and professionally humiliating me as he does with B, and J is following in his footsteps.

Lastly, there will be a survey around January. We are supposed evaluate our colleagues and bosses and vice versa. Idk of it's anonymous. These are bi-anual. V and B appear to be scared of these surveys, because when they bring up this topic they act extra nice to me.

Finally I'd like to ask you what you think I should do. Should I report any of this? Should I send an anonymous tip to the company's anonymous platform? Should I quit while I can? Should I wait until the end of my contract and then blow the whistle? Should I talk in the January surveys?

8 comments

fightlikeagirlDecember 18, 2023

I find masc women stunning. Wasn't sure where I'd be on the poll though because I wouldn't say I'm overly masc or femme.

stern-as-steelDecember 18, 2023

For that split-second attraction, I definitely do double takes disproportionately at more masculine women. I don't care at all when it comes to partners, however.

areteDecember 18, 2023

Ha, I'm pretty much the same.

RobotGoatDecember 19, 2023(Edited December 19, 2023)

Appearance-wise, I tend to be attracted to women who are very "womanly". Curvy, big hips, etc. I don't care if she's more masc or fem presenting, if she has a nice pair of thighs I'm probably gonna look.

It's not what I prioritize when looking for a steady partner, there are other factors more important than appearance. But as of now, I've been married for many years and I get to have it all. =p

[Deleted]December 18, 2023

I'm neither butch or femme, and prefer women who are either butch or femme or neither/a mix.

stern-as-steelDecember 18, 2023

prefer women who are either butch or femme or neither/a mix.

Isn't this...all women?

[Deleted]December 18, 2023

Yes. ;P

[Deleted]December 23, 2023

I definitely myself am appearance wise on the masculine butch side of things. I prefer a woman who is stunningly feminine and beautiful. I'm almost exclusively attracted to straight women. And I have super high standards in who I am attracted to. I don't mind a chubby woman if her face is beautiful. The face has got to be beautiful it's the face that does it for me. A good example of the kind of woman I am talking about is miss peru 1998 mariana larrabure de orbegoso, a very feminine and beautiful woman.