18
CareerHired with ulterior motives, part 4, or month 6
Posted February 14, 2023 by AnneDoe in STEM

Quick summary:

Got hired last september to a well paying remote IT job and quickly realized my boss V, a creepy middleaged incel, did it with sinister motives. There were many red flags from the get go, such as sending a book to my address without asking, being overly fixated in charity work I do related to child and women exploitation (he has asked me 'why it was important to me personally" and hes repeatedly brought it up around other members of the team despite it having nothing to do with what we do, despite me not bringing it up ever). He's having an affair with a female coworker, B, who is completely unqualified and clearly mentally unstable. Before working at this company she used to be a manager at McDonalds. They make no effort to hide this affair. Because B's name is the same as my middle name, she and V have repeatedly asked me if they could call me B instead, so they'd be calling both of us B. I said no but despite this he would many times call me B, specially in front of the team. They are both extremely creepy. One time B and I were talking about a city where she studied and where I now study, and she was telling me cool places to visit, and told me "X is really nice but don't go there at night because because its very isolated and someone could harm you and no one could hear you scream.". What the fuuuuuck They have both asked me for my address in this other city under one excuse or the other, but I havent given it to them.

From the beginning it was clear the team did not take me seriously, and while V has told me he hired me for my "exceptional extra curricular activities" and other skills, he has pretty much ignored all of that and it was clear he didnt expect me to have the slightest knowledge of IT.

My job is 100% remote except for conferences, which I have never been to with the excuses of classes as I am still in college.

It's a 12 month internship and ends in September.

The plan is to do as much as I can and learn as much as I can ( the resources they have and the stuff I have access to is unbelievable and a goldmine for learning) and starting month 9-10 start sending out CVs and get the f outta this company. There are more red flags, which I'll get into.

I don't think V will renew my contract because I avoid him and his minions like the plague and since they realized I'm actually qualified they all pretty much began ignoring me and all the forced niceness pretty much evaporated.


So this what has happened since my last post.

V has a number 2 called J (I'll call him skinny J to distinguish him from the other one, the fat J), a young incel who he left in charge briefly during his parental leave. He has treated me like absolute shit, he was incredibly creepy and would always humiliate me in front of the team. Because he's a coom brained idiot, he did most of this in the chat, so I could take screenshots and so our managers (the americans, the company is american) could see it. I don't know what happened but all of a sudden this behavior stopped and he was very nice to me. Then the peer reviews happened and I spilled everything. Now its on record what a creepy little shit he is. He has left me alone since.

Now some very good news. I stumbled upon something that might work very well for me, and I've been working on this project. When I started, a colleague I will call U came out of the woodworks and volunteered to help me. U is very experienced. However, we didnt interact much because on the 2nd week I joined the company, our boss (D, the american) made an emergency meeting and told us U had been fired and was under investigation. He wouldn't tell us why. B told me she thought that it could be related to him mishandling confidential data (as in, bragging about it or looking into things he wasnt supposed to). A couple of months went by and he was suddenly reinstated because the investigation proved him innocent. D clearly wasn't happy about this and even though D is U's manager, they don't like each other very much.

Now U is 'helping" me, in a project that involves confidential data. I entertained him for some time as he gave me some guidance and some tips here and there, but it all felt very half hearted and not particularly helpful. I have a feeling he's stalling the project at this point. In the beginning I pretty much had to chase him to get him to schedule a meeting with me, and now that this is getting interesting he's the one chasing me. He sent me a message in a rude tone that read something like "Do you mind scheduling a meeting to talk about your investigation?". I did, and then unscheduled it đŸ€­. The investigation is nearly concluded. I'll have a report done by next week, and I didnt let him take part in the most critical part of it. I dont trust him, I dont like his tone and call me paranoid, but I suspect his intention is to stall and misguide me, the naive province girl intern, so I don't get anywhere and they take this out of my hands and give it to him. Either that or he wants credit. I wont let that happen.

The best thing is that I am getting good at this and I might have another big project on the way.

The next couple months will be critical.

Meanwhile, I have to work with another creepy scrote, P. P is the guy who handles the part of the infrascructure I need for this project, which isnt well documented so i have to talk to him. He has pretty much ignored and been rude to me, until our first zoom call. Now he's always available, always helpful, never inconvenienced about helping me despite making faces and rolling his eyes and sneering when he thinks im not looking. He'll randomly message me to ask if i need help. I guess he must find me hot. We had a meeting today that started around 5pm and if I hadn't made an excuse he'd drag it until well after 7pm. When we jump on zoom calls for him to help me he talks to me very slowly like im stupid and he always drags them on longer than necessary. For someome who wouldn't give me the time of the day at first now I cant seem to get rid of him. Mind you that this man is around 40 (so are V and U) and often I can hear his kids in the house and even his wife during meetings.

I'm beginning to think there is a generalized problem with sexual harrassment in this company. I haven't felt this targetted or creeped out even in college. I feel more comfortable walking alone at night than talking to some of these people remotely. Every time V mentions my address I spend the rest of the day looking over my shoulder. I don't get this feeling from the american colleagues so it could be just this branch. It's really fucking weird.

Anyway wish me luck, only 6 months to gtfo and I'll make the most of it.

PS speaking of the address thing, I read that Harvey Weinstein used to put PIs after women he assaulted to intimidate them and find dirt on them, I cant help but to feel theres a similar sinister purpose here. I could be paranoid, but if Im right i have to wonder where he got thos idea/ who he learned it from.

EDIT: So I got another angry message from U, almost demanding I schedule another meeting and keep him updated on the investigation. He said he "needed" to be updated. I messaged him back asking him to clarify exactly what his position on this was, as I believed he was only there for support and not as a manager or supervisor, and apologised profusely for being a naive clueless noob and told him I meant no disrespect yadda yadda He then sent me a huge wall of text that went something like "No of course you have no professional obligation to report to me, but I believe we were in this as colaborators and I proposed some ideas and lobbied for you and this project and budget for this project around V [this budget was around 150€ by the way], and if I am not updated what will I tell V when he asks me for updates? Also I work for X department for which the results kf this investigation could ve very interesting. i'm sorry if I did something you disliked and i am always here if you need anything!" Basically this but with more bullshit. I replied that no, he didnt do anything wrong, that I've been keeping V updated, in fact had just spoken to him, and thanked him deeply for his help and left it at that.

Holy shit these people are so fucking sketchy.

27 comments

ladybrainhaverMay 13, 2021

It's been hard at times but I've experienced this too. Certain gender critical ideas helped me understand myself and name my experiences within the first, like, three months more than gender ideology or Tumblr brainrot did in five years. The extremely woke left reminds me of the exact inverse of evangelical Christians: the same lane of collective insanity but exact opposite beliefs.

Yes, 100%! Hitting peak trans and becoming GC woke me up to the nature of my sex-based oppression and gave me the framework to assess my own experiences and the language to name female oppression.

I finally see the rampant misogyny of men on the left and of liberal feminism, of not just the bullshit about transwomen being women on the basis of sexist stereotyping and belief in gendered brains, but also the rhetoric that prostitution is work and porn is empowerment and BDSM is hot and WAP is a feminist master-piece. It's all so gross to call all that feminism but lefties are taught to parrot woman-hating nonsense.

I absolutely think "woke think" has completely rotted the left's ability to think critically, and like you said, it's like a fundamentalist religion where they must adhere to dogma or be pilloried as a heretic.

courage2courageMay 13, 2021

IA. Being enlightened is spiritually fulfilling.

I am politically left-leaning but lefty political groups are the most miserable, po-faced places where everyone tiptoes on eggshells and purity spirals run rampant and all language is cloaked with cuddly inclusive mind-coddling and any dissent unveils full-on militancy. Lefty politics is exhausting.

Love your username, btw <3

sarahsmileMay 13, 2021

I'm such a weird mix: I believe in a robust welfare state, am anti-death penalty, pro-environment, etc. but am really not on board with a lot of the left's ideology.

PendletonMay 13, 2021

I'm very similar to you. Hooray for being politically homeless!

[Deleted]May 13, 2021

I don't even think they are leftist. They are liberal and corporate-controlled. Maybe even anti-materialist.

ComplicatedSpiritMay 13, 2021(Edited May 13, 2021)

Cuddly inclusive mind-coddling for the right people. The far left is a lot more shameless about making violent threats, and then passing them off as, “I was half-joking. (But really tho I’m so enraged at the state of the world that don’t be surprised if me and all my allies just fucking snap one day but it will be justified because we will mow down all the oppressors and their silent collaborators blah blah blah.) “ collaborators are anyone who just doesn’t measure up in their lives. Maybe you’re too busy struggling to survive yourself to help block a highway. But that means you’re a collaborator, because you weren’t there.

Far leftists aren’t ashamed to talk about how they’re going to break heads and spines, pig/collaborator/oppressor/capitalist/TERF/bigot etc blood will be spilled, etc and it’s just like “oh it’s okay, they’re threatening violence and death against the people who really deserve it.” Even if those people are just kind of ordinary people whose greatest sin is not being one of their fanatical followers.

SaladSparklzMay 13, 2021

Radical feminism has been an endless gift of truth discovery for me and I'm so very thankful to have found it.

shewolfoffrance🩕May 13, 2021

It's a lot like leaving a toxic religious group. It removes a mental burden to not force yourself to pretend that TWAW.

sarahsmileMay 13, 2021

And has the side benefit of seeing how ludicrous it is through clear eyes.

shewolfoffrance🩕May 13, 2021

And you can apply that logic to other situations in life too.

BeaMathersMay 13, 2021

I wish it had been good for mine. I peaked for good probably three years ago after decades as a "genderqueer" TRA.

Between the TIF teen daughter (who had been more content with being a girl as a kid than ever I was, and who never knew anything about my own gender stuff, so she's not trying to be like me here), living in a progressive city where my Congress rep is oh-so-proud of her TIM son (and has the bills to prove it), almost every one of my long-time friends still being passionate to the point of irrational TRAs (with at least half of them supporting their TIF daughters--for me, making friends has never been easy, and even if it were, those new friends wouldn't have the two decades of history behind them), and my fandom hobbies pretty much lost to me (that's where all the ROGD lives in the adult female population), it's been an utterly miserable three years. It hasn't been getting any better. It probably won't for a long time. That's just my reality now.

I've gained a bunch of weight, I've had some of the worst bad mental health days since I first sought help for it back in my 30s (I looked for GC therapists in my city with no luck), and I'm feeling lonely and isolated. It would probably be different if I'd peaked in my 20s and not my 40s and had a lot less to lose. (Maybe that's the lesson here: never fall for the BS, or get out as soon as you can.)

Don't get me wrong! I'm genuinely happy for those who've had peaking improve their mental health, but it can hurt a lot to see the truth when everyone around you still truly believes the lies. Apostasy isn't an easy path. I'd ask myself if it was worth it, but it's not like you can unsee reality once you've seen it.

worried19May 13, 2021(Edited May 13, 2021)

Is there any way you can get out of there? That can't be a good environment for you or your daughter.

BeaMathersMay 13, 2021

I have been trying to get out of here for a few years now, but between elderly family members who need a great deal of support, a house that needs a lot done to it before we can sell, and work, it's just not worked out for us.

Yet another reason I wish I'd peaked when I was younger instead of being in the thick of it! I'm going to keep in mind the deep undercover post in o/women, though, and hope to find more like minds while I'm stuck here.

worried19May 14, 2021

Understandable. Have you read Irreversible Damage? One of the things Abigail Shrier recommends to parents of ROGD girls is to move, but that's easier said than done for a lot of people.

notyourfetishMay 14, 2021

You're not the only one, though, so don't feel bad. I peaked at 30 and was ashamed that it took me so long to notice all the B.S. for what it was. Before that I supported these addled males just because I didn't yet realize the full extent of their sexual perversion and how much men really hate us. I was naĂŻve and wanted to believe people were good, even men, even after all they had done to harm me my entire life. The years since then have shown me that it's the opposite: most people are not good and some are straight up evil. (My opinion, my experience, not sorry.)

Sadly, I had nothing to lose except my favorite fandoms (I had been isolated by an abuser, so no family or friends at the time). I love video games, and some of my favorite developers have jumped the trans bandwagon and included BDSM (BDSM!!!) and transgender crap in my favorite games sot hey can get ass pats for being "progressive." The one thing that made me happy, infiltrated by libfem, genderist nonsense.

So tired.

HandsomeCherryMay 13, 2021

It is, I am happy for you. You will never win and you will never feel good in that space. And I bet you're relieved you don't have to read weird fetish stuff being feminist and revolutionary actually lol. Let's walk in this glow of mental health improvement together, you might lose long time friends but you can always make new ones, people with healthy mindset are actually easy to befriend :). Good luck!

[Deleted]May 13, 2021

[Comment deleted]

sarahsmileMay 13, 2021

I'm right, I know I'm right, and there's nothing you can do or say to insult me on this front. Took some time, but I'm there.

mg2000May 13, 2021

oh I wish it were like that. I‘m in the beginning and whew... I don’t think it’s fun since I can’t talk about it freely, without fear of judgement.

questioningtwMay 13, 2021

Same here. I used to feel so guilty, because I wasn't one of those people that thought women transitioning to men where brave and stunning and most of the time I just was disappointed. I used to actually buy into thinking I was human garbage because instead of finding it awesome that these women where finding happiness, I just thought it was sad. I also hated feeling like there was something wrong with me for speaking out that guilting lesbians until dating you is wrong, and it doesn't matter if your feelings are hurt or you think the person is being mean. No means no! I also hated feeling like I had to shut up when I heard things like we knew he was really she when he grabbed a pink blanket! It is ok to speak out.

notyourfetishMay 14, 2021(Edited May 14, 2021)

speaking out that guilting lesbians until dating you is wrong, and it doesn't matter if your feelings are hurt or you think the person is being mean. No means no!

That's exactly it. Their hurt feelings are all that matter to them, and in fact, they are the only ones entitled to feelings at all. We aren't even people. We're just sex dolls that are supposed to robotically giggle and spread our legs on command.

questioningtwMay 14, 2021

I remember when I first came along the Cotton Ceiling I was so beyond disgusted, and I assumed my fellow feminists would be too. Nope, the compared it to people not wanting to date fat people because they are fat. Um. No one should have to date a fat person if they don't want. I say this as a fat person too, sheesh.

[Deleted]May 13, 2021(Edited May 13, 2021)

It has been great for me as well. I have less social anxiety overall, and since I learned about radical feminism I've felt more grounded and confident in general. I wouldn't describe it as the 'radical left' though. I think gender identity concepts are actually more individualistic-minded, which doesn't really unite well with class-based, material-based leftism.

[Deleted]May 13, 2021(Edited May 13, 2021)

I seriously feel so much freer now. I don't have to hate myself for being "cis," live in fear of not being ideologically pure, or feel like I have to silence myself about the sexism I've experienced. it's still scary to have to hide my views while I'm at work and in school, but it's so much better to be able to see the world how it actually is. I never realized how much energy the mental gymnastics were taking when I was a TRA.

viragoeternalMay 13, 2021

I had a major boost in mental health too. I feel so freed and unburdened. one of the things that drove me most mad was all the hypocrisy, double standards and inconsistency that thrived in those spaces as people vocally denied reality but contradicted themselves in their actions. getting away from all that feels like a weight is lifted. I have been much better able to control my reactiveness and have been enjoying saying the words 'women' and 'female' a lot. it was like a cloud cleared from over my mind. and separating myself from queer spaces means I am not encountering gender ideology at every turn. which helps soooooo much. freedom!!! feels great.

Nona_BibaMay 14, 2021

do you think it's because it's less stressful than having to walk on eggshells all the time? Talking about leaving the toxic radical left too.