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IndustrySexism on StackExchange
Posted May 27, 2022 by proudcatlady in STEM

StackExchange is a question-and-answer site with multiple sub-sites about all kinds of topics from chess to literature to Christianity and Hinduism. But it is most well-known for the sub-site StackOverflow, which is basically a lifeline for programmers. There, detailed explanations and solutions for all kinds of errors you might receive while programming in any language can be found. Any of you who are software developers or programmers in any capacity know all about SO.

So naturally it is a sausage fest. The other sites are populated by the same misogynistic programmer types who flocked to SO in the first place.

The site has long had a problem with culture, and they have worked to make it a less openly hostile place to newcomers. Considering female socialization and how male-dominated programming is, it’s obvious that a lot of these shy newcomers who were scared away were probably women.

Then there was the infamous Monica Cellio situation in which a female user who had moderated several sites for quite some time was immediately banned unceremoniously for asking if she could avoid using pronouns in writing and still be adhering to the site’s rules on forcing users to use chosen pronouns of other users. She did receive a lot of support from the user base, most of whom are typical males who are anti-trans when it suits them and anti-woman the rest of the time.

I myself received a temporary ban from one of the sites for persistently calling out sexism. Can’t have that! The males were all mad that I took issue with an unnecessary porn reference in a post that didn’t need it and had to flex their power.

Then today I see this question on the philosophy site, which clearly implies women aren’t biologically suited to STEM. Of course the accepted answer is standard male thesaurus word-vomit that ends with, no, women aren’t biologically suited to STEM (but don’t worry only at the highest level! Like sports!). This of course is a question we can never actually know the answer to as we don’t have any evidence of pink and blue brains, and there are so many man-made barriers to women in STEM that we will never be able to actually tell if there is a biological difference. However, the rate at which girls have overtaken boys in school despite all the barriers girls still face that boys don’t even in the US might tell you something…

And of course you have males crying about diversity quotas.

All this to say that ironically the question above is an example of the very thing they’re claiming never happens. Hordes of men on a core gatekeeping site for computer science making it a hostile place for women, clearly telling women, “You don’t belong here and never will. It’s biology.” Things like THAT, in combination with our crippling socialization from fetushood, are what keep us underrepresented. Not our lady brains. Or maybe it IS our lady brains but we literally cannot know because you won’t. Get. Out. Of. The. Way.

It’s almost like they’re terrified to actually test their theory. Because they’ve seen what happened in education, what strides women have already made in STEM with both hands and feet tied behind us and babies hanging off of us, and it terrifies them.

45 comments

FeminismIs4WomenFebruary 14, 2024

The problem started when we decided to stop treating men who truly believe they are women the same way we would treat someone who thought they were Jesus Christ or thought they were a horse.

They need mental health treatment and validating their fantasy is just leaving them to their sicknesses. You can't be a woman anymore than you can be a horse or the son of God and the sooner you can accept that the closer you are to the road to recovery.

AlaliesFebruary 14, 2024

I remember reading a post of a guy who said the reason he transitioned so late was because he thought it was impossible, like becoming a fairy. But then he found Reddit and realized it was “possible” and chose to transition later in life. The phrase TWAW is absolutely feeding into delusion, giving people false promises, and spreading false hope.

FeminismIs4WomenFebruary 14, 2024

That's the consequence of these monsters. They set out to groom people online and then boast about cracking peoples egg. 'If you think you might be trans then you probably are' and all that BS.

Then they treat detransitioners like garbage and tell them they were dumb to belive it and were never really trans.

He was right the first time, changing sex is like becoming a fairy or a unicorn, its just fantasy.

NastasyaFillipovnaFebruary 15, 2024

Its not like this idea of chaning sex is a modern one. There are stories about such changes in mythology and folklore, but that's all they are, stories.

But now it has been coopted by pharma and medical industry to sell casteration drugs and mutilation surgeries, creating a medically dependant individual from teenage years.

JehaneFebruary 15, 2024

You know, I really blame the WHO for the current situation, at least partly, what with them declaring that transgenderism isn't a mental illness any longer and removing it from the actual catalogue.

FeminismIs4WomenFebruary 15, 2024

Absolutely, similar large organisations that have a lot of public trust are also at fault.

I had the same belief myself, assuming that because the WHO has this stance, many respected medical societies and all of academia so they must have strong evidence that its true. Nope, apprently when a bunch of straight men with a fetish or two want something they will stop at nothing to get it and run a very successful campaign because...men.

RusticTroglodyteOliver Twist MuppetFebruary 14, 2024

OMG jesusgender is valid

FeminismIs4WomenFebruary 14, 2024

Now that there are totally valid white men dressing in burqas and blackface and calling themselves women I have no doubt that they would see no problem with Jesus gender. Is jesus gender really any more stupid than vampire gender or mushroom gender?

If they are jesus gender then they can practice turning the other cheek for once.

TerfPersephoneFebruary 15, 2024

🤣🤣🤣

samsdatFebruary 14, 2024

Believe me, being gender critical does not give me “gender euphoria” any more than defending my house against intruders would give me “home euphoria.”

Anyway, kid, true maturity comes with finding a way to build a life that brings you joy within a radical acceptance of reality.

[Deleted]February 15, 2024

Our lives, our suffering , our pain, our reality is just a fun porn scenario to them.

They think they have a hard life because hot women, or in this case hot straight men, do not just drop into their laps out of the clear, blue sky. They don't ever stop to think that other people have problems that literally concern life and death, trauma and rape. It's just not real to them, they don't give a single shit. Like the AGPs, in the end it's all about having a wet, happy dick. And when they don't get it because other human beings have agency and are not born to be a TIMs validation machine and sex dispenser, they genuinely believe their human rights are being infringed on.

samsdatFebruary 15, 2024

I think the great majority of people are living in a bizarre little escapist bubble these days, created by isolation and the artificiality of their primary contact with other humans coming through the internet. It was already bad before the pandemic, but the pandemic made it much, much worse.

CivilFebruary 16, 2024

Gender Euphoria is just a euphemism for boner.

OwnLyingEyesFebruary 14, 2024

FFS, we're not over here getting off on 'gatekeeping,' we're sick of men forcing themselves on us in every conceivable way. It's not a matter of confidence and we aren't what's keeping you from being a woman, reality is what's doing that all on its own.

TheChaliceIsMightierDickPocket=/=VagFebruary 14, 2024

As if we’re the ones deciding who is female and who isn’t… nope, biology already did that.

OwnLyingEyesFebruary 14, 2024

Mother Nature, the ultimate TERF.

BlackCirce🔮 🐖 🐖 🐖 🐖February 14, 2024

that’s some good trolling

mathloverFebruary 14, 2024

Not sure. It's very similar to a lot of the teenage boys posts. More and more of them are starting to sound increasingly like that.

MardyMcMareFebruary 14, 2024

Heh, I did wonder.

But I pretended to believe it, so that I could smack him down.

TerfPersephoneFebruary 16, 2024(Edited February 16, 2024)

Saying that women “gatekeep” womanhood is like saying black people “gatekeep” being black - it’s utterly nonsensical. You’re either female (a woman) or not. If someone is born male then he will never be female, i.e. a woman. If someone is born white then she/he will never be black; just like if someone is born black they will never be white (and so on and so forth). This child is being groomed into a misogynistic, homophobic cult that praises itself for grooming children - his parents have failed him. Should he continue on his current path, his entire future will be a constant litany of pain and suffering. Sterilization, mutilation, emotional abuse, social isolation…the list goes on and on. I hope this young man gets the real help he needs, and not that “if you think you’re trans you probably are! Now, when can we book your castration party?” bullshit. Maybe he’ll see reality for what it is and give up the gender cult before it’s too late, but at this point it looks unlikely. He’s drank the kool-aid and is already handing himself over to those AGP perverts with sissification fetishes at r/mtf

Women1stFebruary 14, 2024

You aren’t “one of the good ones.” Respect women’s boundaries and need for safety, then we’ll talk. Don’t objectify women and promote sexist stereotypes, then we’ll talk. Don’t steal our language, that we require to define ourselves as a group. This is done for our safety. Then we’ll talk.

WatcherattheGatesFebruary 14, 2024

I'm 16 years old and would like gravity to work in reverse. I am sooo sad that is not happening and no one is on board with agreeing with me. If I could just be one of those who believe gravity works the way it's always worked, I'd be so euphoric!

Ack. But, hey, 16--hopefully will drop the whole charade in 3 months.

WrennFebruary 15, 2024

I would like to hope he’d drop it too, but he won’t drop the porn so I don’t see that happening

OxyToxinFebruary 14, 2024

This guy might still have a chance if he can let go of that sexual covetousness for the attention men give women. I think a lot of young gay men go through that phase and hopefully grow out of it if they stay out of the gender black hole. Nobody else but fetishists (and maybe homophobic parents) want him to be "trans" either.

pennygadgetFebruary 14, 2024

This seems to be a trend in the gay TIMs. They're jealous of the attention men give real women. And they think the straight dudes they covet will immediately fall for them if they can make themselves look enough like a blow-up doll. They think women live on easy mode (at least where dating/relationships are concerned)

OxyToxinFebruary 14, 2024

I agree. It might have been in the AskGayBros sub, but a woman was asking for help because her gay younger brother was getting increasingly misogynistic towards her and her mother. The guys told her that he was likely going through that phase (late high school/college-aged) of being surrounded by hot guys that would never be interested in him. They told her he would probably grow out of it if she could just hold out for a bit while also shutting down his attitude. It was news to me, but apparently common for many gay men. Hopefully the little turd grew into a better person since I never saw a followup. They either get over it or hide the covetousness better...or trans now.

RusticTroglodyteOliver Twist MuppetFebruary 14, 2024(Edited February 15, 2024)

Imagine thinking a "phase of misogyny" is in any way acceptable. Those men are nuts. I wish my son WOULD try some shit like that. If he goes through a "misogynistic phase" I'll go through a "stay your ass in your room with no electronics" phase or a "you're paying for your own damn college" phase

legopantsFebruary 14, 2024(Edited February 14, 2024)

No matter how many times or how many of these pathetic people you ask, not a single one can ever explain what rights they magically don't have upon declaring themselves trans

FeminismIs4WomenFebruary 14, 2024

The universal human right to do exactly what you want all of the time. Anything else is a human rights abuse.

MardyMcMareFebruary 14, 2024

Yeah, no, you can’t change sex, no mammal can.

If you don’t fuck up your health with wrong-sex hormones, or comfort eat all day and night in your basement den, you can expect to live at least another 50 years, and those 50+ years will be a lot easier if you just accept you will always be male, and find yourself an interesting, healthy hobby (no, not porn).

MardyMcMareFebruary 14, 2024

I mean, I’m not a mother, but FFS, surely that’s what any good Mum should be telling their child?

TheChaliceIsMightierDickPocket=/=VagFebruary 14, 2024

That’s what I’d be telling mine and I am a mom.

overanddoneFebruary 14, 2024

Did he just call TERFs "one of the good ones"?

self-own there, boyfriend

OwnLyingEyesFebruary 14, 2024

It sounded to me more like he wanted to be seen as, say, Debbie Hayton (or the handful of other TIMs that GCs sometimes bring up as 'the good ones' for various reasons that tend to not hold up too well to scrutiny) and get headpats and praise from us (never mind that that's a point of contention playing out right now).

overanddoneFebruary 14, 2024

ah. Thanks. It makes no sense either way, because there are no "good" TIMs, but he may not think that.

RusticTroglodyteOliver Twist MuppetFebruary 14, 2024

What's he mean "even if he gets equal rights" lmao

pennygadgetFebruary 14, 2024

TIMs think "equal rights" means "I get to do whatever I want all the time and I'm legally allowed to kill anyone who misgenders me"

TheChaliceIsMightierDickPocket=/=VagFebruary 14, 2024

He’s a kid being told constantly that he is oppressed.

SpicyLadyFebruary 15, 2024

We all stopped believing in Santa Claus at 10. Maybe it's time for this little shit to believe that magic isn't real too.

puppy_catFebruary 14, 2024

I hope this kid grows up soon. At least he's not at the point of calling himself a "biological woman" yet, like a lot of the other guys on the MTF subreddit do.

pennygadgetFebruary 14, 2024

He wants to be the next Debbie Hayton. 🤣

For real though, this poor boy would be much better off if he could be convinced to be happy as an effeminate gay man. But that would be "conversion therapy". So, instead, any doctor or therapist he consults will dismiss his misgivings about being trans and shove him down the conveyor belt of drugs, surgery, etc in the vain hope of becoming passable as a heterosexual female.

I really hope he comes to his senses before be does permanent damage to himself. He seems like the type who would get genital surgery because he thinks its the magic solution to his distress; only to realize that he's still depressed AND his health will be shit forever because of the surgery.

DemeterFebruary 15, 2024(Edited February 15, 2024)

Oh damn, I didn't think Blanchards type I used reddit. Gay men, real LGB, who used to be put in as transsexual. I hope they realize LGB will still include them (for being gay men) even if it drops the T. The transvestite fetishists give and gave them such a bad name, but the fetishists are very male and love colonizing other people's spaces. To boldly go, and all that. (Blanchard's typology research shows while even those straight/bi men deny it the plethysmography doesn't lie. Women and purely gay men just don't trip AGP wires like that.)

drdeeisbackFebruary 15, 2024

Well that is my new word for the week.

SaladSparklzFebruary 14, 2024

Well, good luck there pal!

Anywaysssss, where we all going for lunch?

TheKnittaSpacePopeFebruary 14, 2024

Ya daft git, you can’t be a woman any more than you can be Concorde or Superman. Grow the f up.