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It's Here! Website Cataloging Men in Women's Sports
Posted April 28, 2024 by sws in SaveWomensSports

Here it is!!!!!

https://www.hecheated.org/

Sorry for the delay. I have been working almost nonstop for the past couple of months and I decided to put it up as is for now.

This is very much a work in progress. I’m almost embarrassed to be posting it here already as I have not had a chance to really design things the way I want. This is a very rough framework and may go through a complete overhaul in the future as far as page design, color scheme, etc. I welcome any input on design ideas if you have them or any help with html or css (as I’m a total beginner). I just know that it could take me months before I get it to where I want and I'd like to share the information I've collected so far as soon as possible. I will continue to add to it.

The tentative name is HeCheated.org, sort of a counterpart to SheWon, but it sounds sort of like a site about cheating husbands/boyfriends, and I’m not sure I like that. I also don't want to sound like I'm ripping off of SheWon, so I’m open to suggestions for other name ideas.

Due to the sheer number of results, the Totals page is incredibly slow. I will be trying to fix this. Although I like the impact scrolling the list has, I might need to add pagination to it.

There are several links on the top navigation bar that I have not started yet. I plan to have a timeline page documenting major events such as the introduction of legislation for/against men in women’s sports, major lawsuits, and other events such as the men participating in the 2020 Olympics. If anyone would like to help with these, let me know.

The Hall of Shame section will feature several different categories with a “winner” and five “dishonorable mentions” for each. I have several categories in mind such as the “Activist Parents” (parents of the young boys who have given schools and courts hell to get their boys in girls sports) “Aging AGPs” (older men who never played before and suddenly decided they needed to join a sport in their 40s or 50s), a category for men who have played in the men’s and then went on to prolong their careers in women’s after they should have retired, a category for the worst organizations as far as policy (for example USA Fencing where the president, I believe, said he didn’t care if it was unfair for women), and the worst countries as far as putting men in women’s sports. If you have any ideas for categories, category names, and/or entries for each, please, please let me know.

I also plan to have a section with recent updates along with helpful links. This way repeat visitors to the site can easily see any entries that have been added since they last visited. I will try to update once every two weeks if not more often.

If you know of any pages that are helpful (male results in female competition, legislation, women’s rights organizations, athletic studies on sex differences) please let me know and I will include these in the links.

I have not had time to update many of the sports I’ve already gone through with more recent entries for 2024. I’m continuing to work on athlete biographies. I have not started several sports here and have not gotten to some of the athletes in sports that are already up. I also have not done any of the analysis. If anyone has ideas for ways to present the data in charts and graphs, I’m open to ideas.

Not all of the numbers in the descriptions match with the results in the tables, this is because I have yet to had data from my collection to the site. I also am not sure how I want to present the data summaries on each page. All of them are inconsistent right now “xx tournaments won” “xx unfair victories” etc. I’m not sure what I want to do with this yet. Suggestions welcome.

I will also be adding female athlete pages for each sport to show the TIFs who participate in men’s sports and their results, which will be compared to their male counterparts. Most sports do not have any female entries in the male division.

I could use help deciphering results for cricket, tennis, and rowing, as I really don’t know anything about those sports. If someone would be able to find info about cricket stats (stat leaders if that’s a thing) that would be helpful.

I am also trying to organize the results by level of competition (professional, amateur, etc.) and competition type (is it a national competition, state championship, etc.) but I’m struggling with many sports in that I really don’t know what is considered pro vs. amateur. If anyone has input on this I would appreciate it. The labels that I have put for now are likely not accurate and were used more as placeholders.

I plan to indicate the solo wins apart from the others, as those technically have not displaced female athletes, but sometimes still offer prizes and demonstrate that despite these men claiming they can’t make their own leagues because there aren’t enough of them, they have no issue competing alone if it’s in the women’s division. I’m not sure what to do with pro wrestling. For now I have it in, but I may make it a separate section as it is technically acting and the results might be predetermined. The fact that men are allowed and are chosen to win, though, shows how these leagues are choosing to promote them over actual women.

I’m also not sure if I want to include the semi-final and quarter-final matches in team sports. These are incredibly important games. For now, I have listed some of them. I have not included team wins yet in the total victory count, but they will be added eventually. Volleyball has around 780+ wins to add.

I have combined several sports (I have American/Australian football in with rugby even though there is a football page) but I’m not sure if that’s the way to go or if each sport should have its own page. The sports in the “other” category only have one athlete each.

And finally, I have not been able to proofread and double check results. If you notice any mistakes with dates, any broken links, or if you can find the missing dates or competition names, just shoot me a message. I would like this to be as accurate and thorough as possible. Unfortunately, I haven’t been able to archive all of the links, and some links go to general pages that you have to tab through to get to the actual result. I’m not sure how to better link those.

If anyone wants a place to start to find names for SheWon.org, you could definitely sort through these results to find championships and larger competitions. Many of the links are full results.

And of course, if anyone wants to help out in some way, no matter how big or small, feel free to shoot me a message or comment here. Thank you!

16 comments

pothosvari_June 27, 2024

This is what actual biphobia is. Refusing to accept bisexuals calling themselves such and trying to push a different label on them, conflating poly nonsense with us, pressuring bi women into threesomes, etc. Tra bisexuals ignore all of this and instead fixate on lesbians choosing to not date bisexuals.

That woman was being highly inappropriate and regardless of your reasons for canceling future appointments, that was none of her business and it was completely unprofessional for her to call you and inquire about it.

BabyCobraJuly 9, 2024

Right on.

I know biphobia exists all over the place and it's usually something along the lines of "well just mount everything from a bedknob to a broomstick and see which one ya like more!"

But leave it to a gEnDerSpeShul mOmMa bEaR to f*ck up this hard. Systematically ticking ALL the biphobic boxes and charging god knows what per hour just for the pleasure of making it plain that she did NOT bother getting her continuing education credits in human sexuality 😀

So. Bad.

pothosvari_July 9, 2024

I don’t understand why they’re still forcibly associating lgb people with trans activism. They’re extremely homophobic and weaponize false claims of biphobia to harass lesbians. “Queer” people are really just antagonistic to lgb people. And most of them are spicy straights too

goldenheartccJuly 31, 2024

oh my god OP!!!! both of my therapists know im GC I make that clear right away I cant imagine dealing with this bullshit! I am also bisexual and have dealt with the sexual comments from strangers in normal world but never from a therapist! I am so glad you got out of there and got a better therapist!!!!

OpalsOctober 5, 2024

This is a late response but she sounds like she has no boundaries and I’m not surprised her daughter transed if she was overly intrusive/homophobic. So typical of many (not all) ‘parents of trans kids’ that I’ve come across

TurtlefuzzOctober 5, 2024

I agree, I'm not surprised her daughter transed herself.

TwoXChromosomesJune 27, 2024

Report her to your state ethics board. Try to keep GC beliefs out of the complaint since you live in a blue state, which might get your complaint ignored. This is totally unacceptable behavior, and this woman should not be working with anyone in that capacity.

TurtlefuzzJune 27, 2024

Yes, when I talked to the director I left out my GC beliefs and only focused on the pushy sex talk. I will look into reporting her to the state board. I don't have any evidence so I'll see what I can do. Thank you!

[Deleted]June 27, 2024

You should have reported her. Why did you feel compelled to 'be kind'? She was the one who was inappropriate. You might save someone a similar fate if you tell her superior that she is biased and has poor boundaries in sessions. That is perfectly legit.

And yes, wow, that was bad. As a bi married woman myself, I'd have bitten her head off. But then again, I bit my mother's head off when said by bisexuality was a phase and shut her down immediately. I also told her if she said anything shitty (not homophobic per se bc my sister is fully butch lesbian), I'd simply walk away from her. And then she did, and then I did. HIGHLY recommend it. Just walk away. Shut that shit down.

TurtlefuzzJune 27, 2024

I was extremely flustered the day after, and I didn't want to make a scene. I did speak to the director the next week and I said I felt this was inappropriate. The director agreed and said she would take action against the therapist.

I'm glad you were able to go no contact with your mother. I'm not ready to do that, mostly because my mother is great in every other aspect except for the homophobia. Her parents are also homophobic so I try to give her a pass because "she old and that's how she was raised".

[Deleted]June 27, 2024

Oh, I didn't mean end the relationship, I just meant walk away from stupid convos. Its like a puppy who pees on the carpet; she needs her boundaries reinforced. It could be as simple as "if you are going to make comments like that, I am going to go." Then you see her next time. That sort of thing.

TurtlefuzzJune 27, 2024

Ohhh, I misunderstood you haha. Yeah, that might be something I can work towards. Thank you :)

BabyCobraJuly 9, 2024

First of all, I want to thank you for sharing. I'm a storyteller myself and appreciate the typing involved.

As I was reading along my head kept snapping back and I gotta agree - you won the World's 3rd Shittiest Therapist lottery with that lady (1st and 2nd Places belong to rapists and personality disordered vultures) Her son is trans, so naturally she understands this bisexual woman on her crusty biphobic couch should just indiscriminately have sex with someone outside her marriage to see if she's really bi.

It's sad and funny and infuriating, your story.

I bet the Germans have a word for this feeling.

norman_bates👁June 27, 2024

What….in the fuck? I’m sorry you were paired with the worst therapist in the world; BetterHelp listeners would’ve been more helpful than that.

She speedran every possible avenue of offense!

ActualTomboyJune 28, 2024

She asks if I have fantasies about women when I masturbate (like an idiot I told her yes). She responds "I don't think that males you bisexual. I think that's pretty common for most women".

This really sounds like the therapist is bisexual herself and in denial about it. I think you triggered her cause she gets really aggressive with you about negative biphobic stereotypes, like being extremely promiscuous.

Near the end of the agonizing hour, she mentions that she understands how hard it can be to come to terms with these topics because she "has a trans son".

She sounds homophobic. I'm sure she forced and manipulated "him" to "come to terms" with "his transness" because "he" was interested in other girls, and didn't want to perform mom's version of requisite "femininity".

ReliquiaJune 27, 2024(Edited June 27, 2024)

One of the worst therapy stories I've heard, JFC. Even Freud himself would have done a better job. I'm glad your new therapist is better