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The parallel to prostitution here is astounding. I always said it was my choice, no one forced or groomed me. We all did. Victims lie to others and more so to themselves to minimize or deny their traumas, but it catches up with you eventually.
I'm so entirely sick of mythos male porn addicts are creating that women love to be beaten and raped and give men erections from their pain. It's just a way for rapist to justify being rapists and pretend the woman wants it so they don't have to feel like rapists. It's also just an excuse to create the porn they want. It's sick, manipulative and abusive.
Well. The people being paid to be a part of this production cannot POSSIBLY be lying about it! 🙄
Lol, Jane Adams wants her patriarchy head-pats.
Sorry Jane, I've already read the Rolling Stone article:
At various points, Levinson’s scripts contained disturbing sexual and physically violent scenes between Depp and Tesfaye’s characters, three sources familiar with the matter claim. In one draft episode, there allegedly was a scene where Tesfaye bashes in Depp’s face, and her character smiles and asks to be beaten more, giving Tesfaye an erection. (This scene was never shot, the source says.) Another proposed scenario was for Depp to carry an egg in her vagina and if she dropped or cracked the egg, Tesfaye’s character would refuse to “rape” her — which sent Depp’s character into a spiral, begging him to “rape” her because she believed he was the key to her success. (This scene also was not filmed because production couldn’t find a way to realistically shoot the scene without having Depp physically insert the egg, another source explains.)
“It was like, ‘What is this? What am I reading here?’” one of the sources says. “It was like sexual torture porn.”
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Although Seimetz’s version of The Idol was also going to contain sex scenes and nudity, production sources claim Levinson dramatically ramped up the explicit content — a move that is quickly becoming his calling card. During both seasons of Euphoria, Levinson faced criticism for employing often gratuitous nudity in a show about teenagers. Actresses on that series, including Sydney Sweeney and Minka Kelly, have lightly danced around the subject in interviews, but admitted they pushed back on some of Levinson’s requests for even more nude scenes. “There are moments where Cassie was supposed to be shirtless and I would tell Sam, ‘I don’t really think that’s necessary here.’ He was like, ‘OK, we don’t need it,’” Sweeney told The Independent.
“It’s almost such an extreme that it’s like, there is no message,” one Idol crew member says. “There is no point. They’re just trying to see how much of a reaction they can get.”
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The production has left many wary of working again with Levinson, who they say is developing a track record of creating chaotic sets. “I would never work for him ever again,” one production source says. “I don’t think I’ll watch Euphoria again after working for him and knowing how he treats his crew.”
“This was such a strong example of just how far [Levinson] can really push HBO and they will continue to cover [him] because he brings in money,” a second says. “He’s able to walk away unscathed and everybody still wants to work with him… People ignore the red flags and follow him regardless.”
I hated her season of Frasier anyway.
"It’s almost such an extreme that it’s like, there is no message,” one Idol crew member says. “There is no point. They’re just trying to see how much of a reaction they can get.”
Hmmm, what else does that sound like? Maybe something that rhymes with 'corn'?
Adams later said, “Free speech is the license to offend, period, full stop. The funniest stuff, to me, is going to offend a group of people no matter what you do.”
That is RICH
Yes, people under contract not to badmouth the show, or who could have total destruction of their career for speaking out... if they don't speak out, we should pretend everything is ok, when there are reports contradicting that?
Not really a good argument.
That being said, haven't read the Rolling Stone article nor do I have any idea what the show is, but the description in the article of the show seems like it's putting forth a diplomatic take that leaves me thinking "that show must be really bad".
As someone who works in film, I can tell you that, even with (supposedly) fully consenting cast, the crew can be deeply traumatized by shooting a graphic sex scene.
Intimacy coordinators are there not to safeguard crew, but to protect the production company from lawsuits and negative press brought by actors feeling regret after the fact.
Actors have poor boundaries, and they pretend to be cool with anything, while the crew (especially female crew) bears the psychological brunt of perverted sadistic directors.
I recently attended a workshop on workplace hazards in the film industry, and when asked by the instructor, “What is the biggest hazard on a film set?” I replied, “the Director”.
I used to know a girl who worked in wardrobe and makeup for various productions. She turned down a good job working on a Quinton Tarantino production because he's notoriously creepy and awful to female staff. She was afraid to work around him because she was his type (she was extremely small and thin and could easily pass as a teenager despite being 24 at the time).
Tatantino's reputation as a creeper is VERY well known to people in the industry. But so far, he's still untouchable and it hasn't hurt his career
He’s a notorious foot fetishist who also permanently injured Uma Thurman in a reckless shot.
Garbage in, garbage out.
When men are watching
pornrape on the daily, it’s not surprising that they apply it to the rest of their daily life, including at work.The explicit level and number of sex scenes in movies has drastically shot up over very few years. Say what you want about traditional film age ratings but that NC-17 or X sure was useful. But I’m sure most people think, why bother keeping streaming shows decent? It’s nothing compared to what the kids are one click away from in their phones. And it’s what
everyonemen want to see.Porn is the downfall of society
This is interesting, thank you for sharing. What did the instructor say to your response?
I have to wonder, are filmed sex scenes as awful as they sound? When I've read about certain intimate scenes shot on tv/movie sets, it always sounds like the most awkward, least sexiest experience ever. I mean, it makes sense, but it's awfully ironic.
The instructor seemed shocked, but he messaged me, asking for additional insights, as he is spearheading a policy initiative on psychological safety on film sets.
As for sex scenes, I took intimacy coordinator training and briefly pursued the work, but I realized that I was trying to protect the actors from themselves, and that there could be no true consent in such situations, just like with prostitution or porn.
When people talk about ‘ethical porn’, I laugh, because there’s no such thing as an ethical film set, much less an ethical porn set.