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orchidmantisFebruary 16, 2023

They're so quick to assume that it was some kind of radfem hate-murder, even though there's no evidence to suggest it. It's like they read about her death and said "finally, an excuse to shoot women I don't like and stomp them to death". What a healthy response to a teenager getting murdered 🙄

[Deleted]February 16, 2023

His death. This was a boy.

DurableBookFebruary 16, 2023(Edited February 16, 2023)

Even their assertion that "radfem rhetoric" leads people to be violent doesn't hold up.

Years back I lurked the Stormfront forums because I wanted to understand the minds of white supremacists. I came away with the conclusion that their ideology is hateful bullshit.

I have read evangelical Christian thoughts about abortion and homosexuality, to understand their thoughts and hear what they have to say, and have come away with the conclusion that their ideology is hateful bullshit.

Simply reading what a group has to say, and even going to their meetings or on their forums, does not radicalize most people. Most people do not need to block their eyes and cover their eyes to avoid being accidentally mind-controlled by extremist groups.

I am not dismissing the value of talking about how various communities contribute to violent radicalization. But doing that requires two steps that the TRAs are skipping:

  1. Establish that the individuals who are being radicalized actually have anything to do with the community in question. (Are the men who murder trans people even aware of radical feminism?)

  2. Look at who is being radicalized and what else might be contributing. (Incel communities have a particular demographic skew, golly I wonder if that's something relevant?)

evermoreFebruary 16, 2023

I thought I was the only one who lurked places like that. 4chan’s pol is another where it’s extra interesting because there are virtually no filters so you see how vile and disgusting some of them are. Some are trolling, but some are deathly serious.

NoNameFebruary 17, 2023

What really bothers me is that a 15 year old girl was stabbed the day before in Hexham. Her name was Holly Newton. When real girls are killed, none of these people give a crap.

RighteousIndignationFebruary 17, 2023

someone pointed out in the comments on the day on social media that a teenage boy in scotland got stabbed on the same day, no one replied or even liked his comment. they really don't care.

[Deleted]February 17, 2023(Edited February 17, 2023)

Exactly. & that goes double for girls of colour

Committing_TerveryFebruary 16, 2023

A fucking MAN killed him, for fucks sake!!! First rule of misogyny... 😔

Jack_the_LassFebruary 16, 2023(Edited February 16, 2023)

Two teens, a boy and a girl, both 15 years old, have been arrested.

Edit to add: down in the thread someone is saying KF is saying one of the killers is trans. I don't trust KF as a news source for obvious reasons, but take that as you will.

Committing_TerveryFebruary 17, 2023

Sorry, by man I meant male. I assume the teen boy did it instead of the girl.

GenderHereticFebruary 17, 2023

It sounds like it was two boys if one of them is "trans". The alternative is two girls (including one TIF), which is far less likely.

suupersamiFebruary 16, 2023

And yet the motive for this child's death still hasn't been released. It's very telling how heavily they're politicizing the murder of a child, despite not having any facts..

PerenelleFlamelFebruary 16, 2023

I feel like even when the motive is released, TRAs will not accept it unless it was actually motived by something having to do with his trans status. They will tie themselves up in knots, say the police are lying, or whatever caused the murder was actually transphobia no matter what else it is.

SakuraBlossomsFebruary 16, 2023(Edited February 16, 2023)

Countless women and girls are murdered solely because of their sex by men, a group of which TIMs are part of. There are numerous TIMs who have been convicted of murdering and raping women and children, while I've never heard of a single instance of a feminist murdering or raping a trans-identified man. Yet we aren't wishing harm on any of them who aren't the actual murderers and rapists.

MiMi2013February 16, 2023(Edited February 16, 2023)

FWIW, the most recent news on the KF thread says that of the three teens involved (2 accused + victim), two are trans. And all three were friends.

If that turns out to be accurate (it's based on online postings from area teens who claim to know all three), then the "people" currently hyping this death , AND blaming Rowlings, will regret the abject stupidity of their comments, especially if where they made the comments are places that take threats of violence seriously.

OneStarWolfFebruary 16, 2023

So sounds like essentially 3 teen males engaging in typical male on male violence 🙄 TRAs trying to blame women for male violence like always, peak misogyny.

ItsJustaNameFebruary 17, 2023

No they will find some way to insist it is still her fault.

PerenelleFlamelFebruary 16, 2023

Woooowwwww, well if that's the case that's certainly going to be a bombshell when it comes out.

And somehow, I still feel like TRAs will call it transphobia, somehow, someway.

Iota_AurigaeFebruary 17, 2023

Or they'll say he only decided he was trans to get a lesser sentence, like the Club Q shooter.

CacaoGudemFebruary 17, 2023

They will forget about the case by the time the real facts come out. In the meantime they will sensationalize more murders.

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AmareldysMarch 8, 2023

Sorry who killed this kid?

Sweetsummerchild [OP]February 16, 2023(Edited February 16, 2023)

I don't know what "pmots bruc" is but I suspect it's codeword for something violent. Even if it turned out the two teenagers who killed Brianna Ghey targeted him because he was trans, TERFs aka feminists absolutely did not kill him. Meanwhile there's basically not a GC event or protest that goes by without TRAs assaulting women.

Edit: ughh I'm a bit slow... I thought they just meant kicking but "curb stomping" is way worse...

SelkieFebruary 16, 2023

That's 'curb stomp' backwards, so indeed a codeword for an act of violence.

QueenOfNothingFebruary 16, 2023

So much for estrogen making them weak little girls that can’t even manage opening a jar of pickles anymore.

AlwaysOrdduFebruary 16, 2023

It's curb stomp backwards

OneStarWolfFebruary 16, 2023

Ah, the violent incel males are unmasking. How very male and very pathetic. Hopefully they’re being put on a watch list somewhere.

RighteousIndignationFebruary 16, 2023

this is why cishets repulse me.

seriously hello police? you see these people spreading hate, they are unhinged, men, women and heterosexuals need adding to the hate crime legislation because these people are so bigoted and full of hate for anyone who's not like them, they will be forming the Pink Guard if they are not reigned in.

Apricot_IbexFebruary 16, 2023

And most TIMs are heterosexuals themselves! Lesbians are their biggest targets for endless sexual harassment.

They’re just “oppressed” straight men with a sick fetish fuming about “privileged cis women.”

[Deleted]February 17, 2023(Edited February 17, 2023)

"die cis scum"

This has been going on since tumblr. "Cis" is a slur.

RighteousIndignationFebruary 17, 2023

I know its nuts, they go on about islamists being radicalised online and incels doing the same, turned a complete blind eye to Trans incels for years.

Apricot_IbexFebruary 17, 2023

The way they talk about wanting to destroy “cis scum” and “TERFs” really sounds like some terrorist or incel preparing for a mass murder. And of course both slurs are just code words for women.

The number of trans/TRA incels seems to be snowballing, but yeah, they don’t want to talk about that, just like they ignored the initial incel movement for years.

freeradicalwomanFebruary 16, 2023

Wasn't he murdered by two other teens the same age as him?

[Deleted]February 16, 2023

Waiting for the real murderer to turn out to be a pedophilic TIM

[Deleted]February 16, 2023

Really? What are their exact words when asked about their motive? Go ahead, I’ll wait.

[Deleted]February 17, 2023

News: "This wasn't a hate crime" MRAs: "uwu die Terf scum I carry guns when I leave the house, shoot on sight uwu"

HEReticFebruary 18, 2023

"curb stomp", both the act and the language, come from Neo-nazi "culture" as do the red bootlaces. Not only are they a symbol of support for white supremacy but they are only to be worn once "earned" by committing acts of race based violence.

The skinhead to trans pipeline stays flowing.

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