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Wsbfom01September 23, 2024
Saint Agatha was tortured, her breasts were torn off with tongs by the way. https://www.britannica.com/biography/Saint-Agatha
OnlyHumanSeptember 23, 2024
They were just being respectful by doing gender affirming torture, obviously
They might have been terrible people but they weren't monsters
PracticalMagicSeptember 23, 2024
They were quite literally YEETED.
Doctor Whatsername should have her as patron saint of her clinic.
pennygadgetSeptember 23, 2024
Do they think Agatha consented to having her breasts cut off? Do they think that the only reason she said "no" to marrying a psycho man was because she was actually a "queer trans man"?
The absolute disrespect
PracticalMagicSeptember 23, 2024
Her... breasts were cut off as a torture method. You absolutely DICKS.
ItzpapalotlSeptember 23, 2024
Just when I think they can’t sink lower.
A woman subjected to unimaginable sex based torture and sickening misogynistic violence ... for the mortal offence of saying “no” to a man. I wish the men who did this to her would have their dicks ripped off.
And how dare they trans-wash part of women’s history. She was a woman, you fucking scrotes, that’s precisely why she suffered this way.
OnlyHumanSeptember 23, 2024
I love how gamers are portrayed as all being super duper transphobic conservatives when convenient but in every single match I enter of a rather popular game at least one person has some form of gender icon equipped and the esports of many games have had TIMs play in rather top competitive roles
pennygadgetSeptember 23, 2024
The gender-specials act as if the small number or gamers who call out their bullshit are constantly harassing/torturing them.
Carrots90September 23, 2024
Aksully
St Agatha had her...top surgery...performed due to sex based violence, hatred/jealousy/ violent lust of women
So kinda the same as why it's done today...just a different payer source
samsdatSeptember 23, 2024
this is INFURIATING. Holding up the story of a woman who was TORTURED for refusing to have sex as an example of fucking TOP SURGERY?
What the actual depraved fuck.
Wow. Talk about "scoring an own goal" and "saying the quiet part out loud"!
There's probably no better way to bring attention to the cruelty, barbarity, horror, misogyny and medieval nature of today's "gender affirming care" for TIFs and NBFs than to draw a parallel between the so-called "top surgeries" that girls and young women are being subjected to nowadays and the grisly torture, ghastly mutilation and savage sexual abuse that Saint Agatha was put through by woman-hating men when she was a teenage girl in Sicily 2,000 years ago.
[Deleted]September 23, 2024
"top surgery torture scars didn't exist in medieval times"
Torture existed then, and still does, you absolute fuckwad.
MandySeptember 24, 2024
This post is absolutely typical of the way they parade their ignorant, smug, uninformed assumptions as if it were actual knowledge.
Also - what about dragons? This has been bugging me since I first saw this post. Dragons are reptiles. They don't even have breasts. What kind of "top surgery" could a dragon have?
faerieberrySeptember 24, 2024
The dragons confused me too 😭 Like I think I got their point but…. why are dragons related? Did I miss something? LMFAO
Like.. “top surgery scars didn’t exist in medieval times, let me tell u about dragons” Okay dragons didn’t exist either? Are top surgery scars the same and also didn’t exist? Because in that case I’d take back my previous comment on this thread, and agree with them LOL
Idk now that I’m putting more thought into it, I’m so confused on their actual point here lmfao
EdelgardSeptember 24, 2024
Like.. “top surgery scars didn’t exist in medieval times, let me tell u about dragons” Okay dragons didn’t exist either? Are top surgery scars the same and also didn’t exist?
This was very likely what she meant. The tweet is specifically about the game Dragon Age including mastectomy scars in their character creator. So she's doing a gotcha by saying "uh, dragons didn't exist either so what ??? you only care about top surgery scars because you're transphobic !"
It's a pretty common argument in medieval fantasy circles. I don't think it works, but I can't quite articulate why at the moment. Something about dragons not breaking the immersion because they actually don't exist at all, VS adding stuff that's clearly representative of modern day existence. So adding dragons make it medieval setting + magic stuff. No interference between the two. Adding elective mastectomy scars = modern religion and modern cosmetic surgery messing with my medieval roleplay.
It's a pretty common argument in medieval fantasy circles. I don't think it works, but I can't quite articulate why at the moment
In most magic heavy settings that are more medieval, the science based medical technology sucks because everyone relies on the church or mages for healing or whatever. But healing magic is usually depicted as being capable enough to not leave scars on skin (with the exception of mechanics like dark magic preventing healing or having the majority of healing magic too low level for that)
And if there isn't a lot of healing magic or it's very limited, you're just left with what was originally there in that time period. Apparently the concept has been around for a long time- apparently the ancient Egyptians were aware of breast tumors and tried mastectomies, but the ball wasn't really rolling until the 1800s because of how dangerous surgery used to be and the lack of anesthesia
If you had your breasts removed in the 1500s and managed to survive, I doubt the result would look anywhere nearly as clean as how that character creator has it
faerieberrySeptember 24, 2024
Ohhhhh okay thank you! I didn’t have the context of what game it was about, that makes so much sense now LOL
But also yeah, IMO dragons just make more sense because like…. there’s medieval art etc with dragons, they were clearly a thing back then, meanwhile things like top surgery/gender etc are so modern that it makes no sense
Soooo are they trying to say she was trans and had “top surgery”?? She took a vow of virginity, refused a man’s advances, and was tortured and martyred for it FFS this is actually infuriating
I've been an atheist since 7 years old, and I find this shit so offensive to believing Christians. Fuck these people. That's on top of what you explained which can be analyzed from a feminist perspective.
You don't have to be Christian/Catholic to be angry at the story of a rape victim who was mutilated for saying "no" to a powerful man being twisted into a story of trans validation
I don't give a fuck if it's offensive to christians. It's offensive to women.
I agree. And that wasn't the point.
Christianity is one of the greatest forces of misogyny in the world, no need to get offended on their behalf
Hamas men cut off the breasts of some of the women at the concert on October 7. They were alive when it happened, according to three people who were hiding.