They are not interested in solving men's issues, they just want women to shut up.

Also, it's crazy women are stereotyped to be dumb and crazy. Men are fucking insane and if everyone wasn't scared of male violence they would be picked on even more than feminists. The mens rights in the 70s threw a fit for having to pay child support, how is men's rights not a joke?

Men, as a whole, are narcissistic and think the entire world revolves around them and their penis and their hurt fee fees.

Women, are supposed to take it.

Neither of those videos had any comments from women demanding to have their own issues included in them.

It's very creepy that they can't make the connection.

For example, I've never heard a woman mention FGM to derail a discussion about normalized circumcision. Maybe you get a very rare mention of FGM, but it's framed as a continuation with the core comment involving circumcision.

However every time I see FGM being discussed with an ability to comment, multiple men will start posting about circumcision. They will say circumcision is worse because it's more prolific or play fucked up semantics games: "sometimes it can be defined as a pin prick or small cut so most cases are probably that!"

I think it has to do with the huge "crazy feminist gets REKT CRINGE COMPILATION" trend a few years ago combined with men being socialized to have less empathy and more self preservation.

Men are taught to be more narcissistic and there's tons of studies showing men have more narcissistic traits. They can't stand to be called out, they can't stand to think of something other than themselves. And of course misogyny and they're fucking crazy. Whenever someone is just angry for no reason on reddit they always have a man's avatar. I've only had countless comments from men in my DMs being complete assholes.

Males are full of projection. I don’t know a single one who isn’t emotionally and psychologically stunted and is able to own their own shit without projecting it all over someone else first. Introspection and consideration of others isn’t encouraged in men, and this is just another result of that. They’re pathetic solipsistic babies who throw tantrums when you don’t center them or when you call them on their shitty behavior.

Most of them don't even give a fuck about the issues until they see it being brought up about women.

There are more searches for "mens day" on womens day than there on mens day.

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=mens day&geo=US

Men benefit from denying the scope and frequency of their violence against us. Of course they try to change the subject as soon as violence against women comes up.

I am choosing to focus on women, not educating men. If men ever want to get their heads out of their asses and start caring about people other than themselves, they are welcome to do so.

Because women are nothing to them. Absolutely nothing.

The tactic is called ‘whataboutism’, and it’s used to derail discussions. The solution is to name the tactic to the dolt(s) using it and to tell them to stay on topic or be quiet, because if they can’t discuss topic in good faith they must not have anything of value to add. In other words, point out the fact that they’re using the weakest style of argument by trying to end it altogether.

Did you know that they can’t play ads about preventing domestic violence because they experience a spike in domestic violence following the ad playing?

I was talking to a family friend who's career army. (A posh unit, too.) For some reason feminism came up, and this guy is genuinely a good guy - championed some women breaking into his field. But he was talking about how important allies are ... and gave me two examples of sticking up for gay men in the army, and then one of a former army mate who's now a TiM.

Homophobia in the military was a huge problem and is still a big problem. TiMs shouldn't be abused just for being TiMs. But ... we were talking about feminism and protecting women in non-traditional fields and removing toxic masculinity from areas where it prevents women from thriving, and he immediately pivoted to three examples of using his positional authority to help other males.

And he's someone I respect and admire, and would trust with my life. Even the good ones don't get it. It makes me despair sometimes.

The projection and self-concerned nature of most dudes I know is insane, and coupling that with their tendency to completely disregard pretty much everything women-related (besides fairly surface-level stuff that just concerns the women in their life), it makes me just want to stop giving a fuck about whatever they have to say, and just let myself focus on completely female voices.

I've been working on that a bit lately, and I have to say, it has been doing wonders for the mental health!

Sometimes it just helps to take a step back from the endless male echo chamber that the internet tends to become, and just read/watch/listen to something by women. Really helps create a focus on what we can strengthen to keep men's 'what-about-mes' to a minimum in discussion.