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[Deleted]June 6, 2023

And yet they've never thought separating men's and women's bathrooms was bad and similar to segregation.

We don't care at all about the "trans" part. It's the male part that concerns us.

[Deleted]June 6, 2023

Which is why everyone needs to stop calling them transwomen. They’re men, nothing can change that.

AmareldysJune 6, 2023

It is like racial segregation if in the 60s a bunch of white people declared themselves to be black, used the black facilities and demanded to be centered in all the black organizations, demanded to lead the boycotts and be the face of the black movement, and said they were more opressed than black people and felt triggered when black people talked about uniquely black experiences

SonnetJune 6, 2023

I do feel like current America is a modern day Jim Crow for Trans.

Read a book, you grape.

BorealForestGC manJune 6, 2023

Racial segregation was based on the view that black people are somehow inferior to white people.

Toilet segregation by sex is not based on thinking that somehow males are inferior to females, or vice versa. It's about providing a safe private space for people (primarily women) when they're in a vulnerable state. It has nothing to do with hatred towards men or viewing men as inferior, less worthy, etc. It's based on evidence of thousands of years of violence committed against women by men.

urprettymuchnuthinJune 8, 2023

right, fear had nothing to do with it

Lemonade_MasqueradeJune 6, 2023(Edited June 6, 2023)

"Current America is a modern day Jim Crow for Trans people"

Calm down, geez. Women asking for recognition of our sex and sex specific spaces for the times our sex is relevant is not at all like "modern day Jim Crow for trains."

Sex separated public restrooms are not forced "separate but equal" spaces for the "lesser people" (in the racists' eyes) to be hidden away into. They were fought for by feminists as one step into giving us equal access to public life.

Unlike Jim Crow laws, this separation was seen as necessary and fought for by the group wanting a separate space AS A WAY TO BE INCLUSIVE TO WOMEN. Because places without female restrooms are HOSTILE AND EXCLUSIVE TO WOMEN.

SEX SPECIFIC RESTROOMS ARE ONE WAY TO MAKE PUBLIC LIFE INCLUSIVE TO WOMEN, NOT EXCLUSIVE.

Being told to use the men's because you are male does not exclude you from public life based on your birth characteristics. If you choose to whine and cry about women being mean and refusing to use the men's, that's on you. Get back to us when trans people on a whole are either stuck at home or risking health issues by holding your bladder because there is nowhere safe to go.

flyingteapotJune 6, 2023

Everyone in that thread (save for the few Black people who are trying to speak reason but are of course being downvoted/argued with) should be ashamed. Just mindlessly nodding in agreement to one of the dumbest and most ignorant arguments I've read around TRA stuff. No critical thinking. No thinking at all. Not only is it ahistorical, but it's yet again 100% self-centered, self-absorbed, feelings-based nonsense. Everyone in the world and their struggles and pain only exist to support some 19 year old redditor's uwu im opwessed~ narrative.

[Deleted]June 6, 2023(Edited June 6, 2023)

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Why do people get mad when you compare trans bathroom laws to Bathroom Segregation from the 20th century?

Both are just as bad and similar. They were both design to keep people separate and people would be like "Black people would mug or rape you if you get too close to them". No different how people think trans men and women will hurt their kids or women. And yet, I bring those two up, I had people get angry at me and telling me that I'm stupid. I do feel like current America is a modern day Jim Crow for Trans people.