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TheChaliceIsMightierDickPocket=/=VagApril 12, 2024

“Wrong puberty” is the one not generated by your own body’s natural processes.

hellamomzillaApril 12, 2024

Puberty is a HUMAN developmental stage. This is pedo talk.

Fluffy_genderApril 13, 2024

Yes, what's next, going through the wrong toddlerhood?

crodishfuck this earthApril 12, 2024

forced to go through puberty

yes, because kids need to fucking grow up.

the wrong puberty

no one has a "wrong puberty" because there's no such thing as being "born in the wrong body". You have one body, is it the only body you will ever have, and your sex is whatever gametes your blueprint abides. Sorry about your mental illness and that you've been gaslit to believe gender is a thing.

TheKnittaSpacePopeApril 12, 2024

Sure, if we’re going down this road, let’s do it.

I don’t see why I should be forced to have periods. Or go through menopause. Or illness. Pooping is an annoying waste of time too. And brushing my hair. Maybe we should ensure no-one have to go through all those things we find annoying or frustrating, huh?

The idiocy of these people. Natural functions are not ‘forced’. They might not be fun but they’re part of being human. Sorry you want everyone to be an animé princess, mate, but reality exists.

God, these people need keeping well away from kids.

Fluffy_genderApril 13, 2024

Well, to be fair, you can avoid having periods with birth control and that's perfectly fine and healthy. And you can avoid having to brush your haircut by cutting it short or shaving it. But yeah, you can't avoid pooping

ProxyMusicBrysexualApril 13, 2024(Edited April 13, 2024)

Since the OP is about using drugs to prevent kids from going through puberty of adolescence, I think it's important to point out that many people believe it's not "perfectly fine and healthy" to put pre-teen and young teen girls on hormonal birth control to prevent them from ever having periods.

In fact, the recommendation that girls and young women go on hormonal birth control to avoid having periods is very controversial in many quarters. Many people have strong doubts that using Big Pharma hormonal birth control products to avoid having periods really is "perfectly fine and healthy" - especially when girls and women go on these drugs in adolescence and then stay on them for years and years.

MsTig0April 13, 2024

This is an excellent point and it should be talked about more. Hormonal birth control has serious effects on female bodies (medical, on occasion, but also developmental and psychological). But the issue is hushed and silenced, perhaps partially because we are so used to it, perhaps also because if women stop taking the pill the peniz gets the sadz.

Fluffy_genderApril 13, 2024

I was talking about grown women but I'm not a doctor, I don't know if it's ok to put teen girls on birth control.

Birth control however is great for women with PCOS and endometriosis

ProxyMusicBrysexualApril 13, 2024

But hormonal birth control products were invented for contraception - and traditionally they've been used for that purpose, and to make girls' and women's cycles more regular, eliminate breaktrhough bleeding, and make periods shorter, less severe and more manageable.

Whereas you specifically recommended using HBC to "avoid having periods" altogether - which is a different use of these medications/products entirely. What's more, you claimed that using HBC "to avoid having periods" is "perfectly fine and healthy."

In fact, using HBC to for the purpose of skipping periods completely has only started to become popularized in recent years, and many people concerned with women's health particularly longterm health have our doubts about the wisdom of using these products in this particular way. Especially over long periods of time.

As for your new claim that hormonal

Birth control however is great for women with PCOS and endometriosis

There's sharply divided opinion and some worrying evidence on those two scores too.

It's important to note that research suggests that oral contraceptives may contribute to severe PCOS symptoms and increase the risk of obesity, type 2 diabetes, heart diseases, and blood clotting.

https://www.healthline.com/health/birth-control/best-birth-control-for-pcos#:~:text=It's important to note that,heart diseases%2C and blood clotting.

The available data demonstrate that combined oral contraceptive use in polycystic ovarian syndrome may worsen insulin sensitivity. However, the effect of this worsening could be modified by the degree of obesity. A decreased incidence sensitivity may not necessarily result from combined oral contraceptive use, particularly in nonobese PCOS women.

Overarchingly, the data concerning metabolic effects are inconsistent and scarce – and there are many unanswered questions. These include the long-term effect of combined oral contraceptives on insulin action, its effect when combined with metformin, the risk of endometrial cancer with long-term use, and conclusive outcomes concerning other metabolic markers such as lipid levels.

https://www.news-medical.net/health/Polycystic-Ovary-Syndrome-and-the-Contraceptive-Pill.aspx

Millions of people take birth control to treat endometriosis — but it doesn’t work

https://www.statnews.com/2023/04/04/birth-control-for-endometriosis-does-it-work/

Although oral contraceptive pills (OCPs) are commonly used to treat endometriosis (i.e., treat the symptoms rather than the disease) there is mixed evidence regarding if prior use of OCPs actually influences the development of endometriosis. Therefore, researchers sought to determine whether prior use OCPs increases or decreases the incidence of endometriosis among a cohort of young women (Tu, Du, Goldstein, Beaumont, Zhou, and Brown 2014).

They discovered that the risk of being diagnosed with endometriosis was 2.4 times higher among women with greater or equal to 5 years of OCPs use versus the never users of OCPs.

The authors concluded that the prior use of OCPs did not provide a protective effect for developing endometriosis but rather found a significant association with prior use but not among parous women... They also mentioned that some of the increased rate of endometriosis might be due to younger women being treated in their early years with OCPs with symptoms like menstrual pain and not for contraceptive purposes.

https://www.factsaboutfertility.org/prior-contraceptive-use-increases-risk-of-endometriosis-among-women-without-children/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7048681/

Cochrane review, the "gold standard" in evidence-based health care:

The combined oral contraceptive pill (COCP) is widely used to treat pain occurring as a result of endometriosis, although the evidence for its efficacy is limited.

there is insufficient evidence to make a judgement on the effectiveness of the COCP compared with placebo and the findings cannot be generalised.

https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD001019.pub3/full

Since it's obvious you're really aren't well informed about the differences of opinion, lack of evidence base, and good reason for caution and concern about the use of Big Pharma hormonal birth control products for the additional reasons you've recommended, I beg of you to please think twice before making sweeping statements alleging that hormonal birth products are "great" and "perfectly healthy" for a wide variety of uses other than contraception - such as avoiding having periods altogether, managing PCOS and mitigating endometriosis. Too many girls and women have already suffered enormous harm due to Big Pharma products being uncritically championed and hormone drugs in particular being used in off-label ways to alter - some would say mess with - female biology.

Lee-Side_April 12, 2024

"Forced to go through puberty", and forced to grow taller, and later forced to have hair go grey. Oh, the horrors!

FemmeEtalApril 13, 2024

Time is so forceful wah

CryingInYourInboxApril 12, 2024

I hope and pray I see a time when these people are imprisoned

pennygadgetApril 12, 2024

My toddler is annoyed when I make her brush her teeth. I guess I should stop "abusing" her by making her brush after meals against her will

MoonflowerApril 12, 2024

twisted and propagandized pseudoscience

Such an utter reversal of reality - this is exactly what the science behind his “medical solutions” is being revealed as lately. But then again, if you’re deep enough in the cult to talk about normal healthy puberty as if it’s a disease, you probably regard the WPATH Files and the Cass Review as literal nazi propaganda.

Iota_AurigaeApril 12, 2024

That he’s getting so turnt over someone using the word “transgenderism” is funny. -ism denotes ideologies - feminism, racism/anti-racism, Catholicism. Transgenderism is no different, and is easier than saying “transgender ideology”.

OnlyHumanApril 13, 2024(Edited April 13, 2024)

They want to insist that they just "are" a la gays

You can argue about the extent of gender dysphoria existing, whether or not it should be considered a symptom instead of a disorder, etc. But trans is an ideology, especially thanks to the "no debate" and zero gatekeeping letting in absolutely anyone, from the two year old getting transhausened to the incel who is only doing it because he thinks women are treated better than men