We would go back to labelling everyone based in [sic] their biological sex

And this would be a bad thing ...?

It's high key homophobic and transphobic to just delete someone's identity and sexuality.

Oh, like you did to women's identities as adult human females and lesbians as adult human females exclusively attracted to other adult human females?

OMG they are such a circle jerk, never getting out of their hole of misinformation, and then exacerbating the issue by repeating circular arguments as if they are profound.

Yet another person who hasn't ever been able to compute the simple things gender critical people say, probably in part due to not ever reading any of us.

i.e. Feminism? But what about the poor men???

They think these are original thoughts, but misogynists have always rebelled against our liberation. The entire existence of these fetish parodies depends on maintaining our subjugation.

They're so terminally boring.

I think I understand, this is a backwards way of admitting that it's about pretending to be the other sex and "gender" is just what they tell people into duping them into thinking "oh it's just about social roles" when genderology is taking gender roles a step further than what conservatives normally do and tries to actually alter the body to "fix" the issue (whether it's being gay, being nonconforming, or justifying and fulfilling porn fantasies) and lie to people/themselves that we have the technology to actually change sex (we don't, and most of you don't even have DSDs)

Really most TIPs use their non-conformity claims as justification for physical alterations which mimic the other sex which is why being freely recognized as a male with "feminine" preferences in a world where that's considered perfectly acceptable is not "enough".

The end goal for TIMs is to be truly regarded as a female- being called a lesbian, being regarded as "not a threat", female only spaces, female only healthcare, and being able to get pregnant or breastfeed or having their inverted dick be recognized as a good enough fuckhole vagina. For most TIFs it's probably mainly to escape the shittiness of the female existence since they seem more satisfied with not actually being males.

TIFs are more likely to pull off looking like males well enough so they do get "sexed" on the fly as male regardless of gender roles. Same with a successful enough TIM, it's just that most TIPs aren't capable of duping everyone so they need the social safety net to "guarantee" everything

Deleting gender roles would do absolutely nothing negative to homosexuals and bisexuals, unlike what they're claiming here (in fact I suspect most of them would be very pleased), and would literally only negatively affect the TQ because whatever body modification shit they choose would rightfully regarded the exact same as any other cosmetic alterations people get

And are we just supposed to identify as penis havers and vagina havers?

This is literally the sort of shit TQ has been pushing on the rest of us with uterus havers and birthing, menstruating person and gestating bodies and shit what in the name of DARVO

I'm sure we can come up for some other completely respectable word for categories of people that do body modifications to mimic the other sex so you don't need to take over "man" and "women", or in the case of the first poster "male" and "female" (they really can't let us have shit)

These people are so painfully unintelligent.

Literally talking circles right back to the reality that it is and always has been about being transsexual 😂

I love imagining the old conmen who’ve pushed for 30 years to be the magical “transgender” instead, desperately trying to elbow these kids in the ribs to get them to shut up NOW you’re saying the quiet part out loud!!

"are we supposed to just identify as penis havers and vagina havers?"

YEAH IT WOULD BE TERRIBLE IF SOMEONE REFERRED TO YOU BY YOUR REPRODUCTIVE ORGANS, WOULDN'T IT?!

It says it all that they are unhappy about people being more comfortable if they were free from restrictive gender roles, even if it is a larger majority, if it interferes with their larp.

They can just wear a t-shirt that says 'I am mentally ill, please treat me as if I were the opposite sex' GNC people would be treated normally instead of assumed to be trans and the mad minority get to feel validated.

Self Aware Wolves... this is what we mean when we say "it's a fetish". Because you're basing your sexuality on literally anything but sexual organs.

The logic is so circular. Instead of arguing why something is bad, it all goes back to transphobia. Transphobia, or any social isms, are supposed to be bad because they reflect prejudice and unfair treatment to a group. If you have no argument that a belief does that, it's just a wash to say it's bad because it's transphobic rather than argue the basis of which it even would be negative.