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Posted September 5, 2024 by hontrapointsš¦š¤¢š¤®
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Welcome to TransLogic!
This is the Radical Feminist Circle to document the various illogical, incorrect, misogynistic, racist, and otherwise caustic rhetoric spouted from TRAs and MRAs in their own words.
The lies, misinformation, threats of extreme violence, and the dehumanization of women who dare speak up against this misogynistic, racist and conservatively homophobic ideology are legion. TRA and MRA stochastic terrorism has already turned to real world violence against women and children.
Use this Circle to record what they say -In Their Own Words-
Note: this circle is also to showcase the lies, fallacies, and misogyny of men in general, whether or not they are trans-identified. This can include MRAs, TRAs, or just your average Joe.
Rules updated as of 22 Nov 2024.
Posts can be removed by mods for any reason for the health of the community including ones that donāt land or are confusing.
Tip: If you aren't sure where a post should go, check out o/ItsAFetish and o/Radfemmery to decide whether or not those would be better circles to post in.
Rule 1: Appropriate Posts
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This circle is for Screenshots of TRAs/MRAs. The preferred format is a screenshot as the post with an archived link for the screenshotted information in the comments.
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Were you never a Brownie?
I assumed all British women recognised that House Elves were Brownies from the Brownie Story, placed in a realistic setting. Generations of little girls have been raised with the message that ābeing human brownies is fun!ā. The story with the mother wishing out loud for a brownie to help around the house and do the domestic work, just as Molly Weasley wishes for a house elf, just as Judy Brady wishes for a wife.
Despite the original story having both a boy and a girl, it is only little girls who had this story as their core focus for a national, establishment-supported youth organisation: the little boys got to be Mowgli in the wolf pack.
House elves are wives. House elves are what the little girls in Brownies were being groomed to be. House elves are the women who I cannot tell to take their freedom, but I can support and respect and hope that this helps. Nobody can be forced to be free, and offering help people do not want is just rude. Hermione learns this as painfully as I did, and as Iām sure Rowling did. I have known Dobbies, but I have also known Winkies and Kreachers, and dozens of respectable house elves who would be insulted if anyone suggested their husband or son should do some work around the house. Women who beat themselves up, and wonāt hear a bad word said about the man who hurts them.
Symbols are multi-faceted, and Iām sure you can take what you want from fantasy creations. Thereās strong elements of class in there, too, with the servants who should do their jobs so perfectly nobody even notices. The old retainer. The families that serve The Family. But I have yet to hear of there being a widespread belief among black American slaves (as opposed to their masters) that their natural role in life was to serve and they would be insulted by freedom, whereas I am painfully aware of how many women I have personally met who hold these beliefs about themselves.
House elves separate (or I hope they do...) the reproductive and sexual labour from the domestic labour, but otherwise are āwivesā leaving Wizarding women to be people.
House elves take the role of wife, and remove sex from the equation. And when you do that, strangely, people start complaining that it looks like slavery, and how appalling to say that anyone naturally wants such a thing or to accept it at face value and look the other way just because it makes your life easier. People write endless fics supposing that there is some magic in play, forcing house elves into the role. What magic is in play that made women take on this role century after century?
The roles house elves take on are clearly gendered womenās roles, but because the first one we meet is Dobby (male), and the next most significant is Kreacher (male), people seem to miss that. And not just Americans reading their own slavery in and missing the Brownie story.
I was never a Brownie (tomboy, I mean undiagnosed transboy) but my sister was, and holy hell is that disturbing. I never knew that, pretty sure she doesnāt either.
When you say brownie are you talking about the girls scouts ?
Yeah, it was the entry-level rank for Girl Scouts, starting at 5 IIRC?
In the UK, itās the 7-10 level of Girl Guides, and itās the level that the highest proportion of British women have been involved in at some point.
Rainbows are 5-7. Guides are 10-14.
Thereās a lot to like about Guides and the whole movement, but the Brownie story and the messaging around it in Brownies is female socialisation writ big. Cubs (Cub Scouts, the equivalent now for all children, then just for boys) āDo Your Bestā. Brownies, in those days, āLend a Handā.
You're remembering correctly.