Everybody else is just a NPC for them. We are not supposed to have our own thoughts, feelings, wishes and, god forbid, lives.

In their sad little mind, it is impossible to understand they are not the main character in other people's lives.

I blame porn, lack of socialisation, and often too much coddling because (self)diagnosis.

Edit: yeah, I really need to take care of this sinusitis cold thing. My brains are mush.

Sigh. I’m looking forward to the day that we stop pandering to the mentally ill.

Tried to help and understand my boyfriend who transed for months, but can confirm I ended up hating him in the end <3 you all do it to yourselves by being insufferable and self centered <3 (also by not seeing women as people and all that jazz)

Lol this guy is really mystified at the idea that a woman dating a seemingly average straight man might be ever so slightly put-off when that man decides out of nowhere that he's a woman who will now be poisoning himself, dressing in drag, and expecting her to play along.

No, she's expected to just magically realize that she's always been dating a woman! What the fuck?

And obviously vice versa for women who think they're men. I esp feel for lesbian couples when one of them falls into the t-cult

Yep, the new “trans woman” is identical to the person you knew before, so much so that you can never ever refer to their original name or sex because that’s devastating for them.

UNLESS the “trans woman” detransitions any time in the future, even if it’s years from now. Then they never were trans or a woman at all. Keep up!

By that logic, I, as heterosexual woman, could just start dating butch lesbians, because some of them are sure to realize they have been men all along, in a couple years, ergo they already are men, ergo I am attracted to them. 🙄

This is extreme gaslighting.

Hopefully they alienate their "cis" partners so much that they can have their t for t. They want the "cis" people to redefine their past. They have no right to demand that.

Admits to being in a place that isn't made for him, gets upset that he's reading things that don't echo what his safe place hug box repeat.

Literally had to seek out the "transphobia" AKA people having feelings outside of their list of allowed sentiments.

"Read a book or two or just treat us people". To them, being treated as people means to be praised. There is never, has never been, and will never be a group of people ever held above reproach. The language they use always suggests that anything less than adulation is akin to a hate crime. It's pathetic.

Trans doublespeak. On the one hand they're just "taking a new medication" and "I'm still the same person. On the other, they're living their bold, authentic truth, and if they don't...dire consequences.

Concerned about their own sexuality, getting upset that their partner starts a medication without signing some kind of contract first, worried about what it says about them.

It's a genuine mystery to them that people have their own thoughts and feelings outside of what a trans person is feeling. He doesn't believe that people should be going on an anonymous forum to discuss how something impacts them (beyond obviously discussing how best to bend to the whim of a TIM). Unbelievable but not surprising.

You don't want to be treated as people, though. You want to be a sacred special being denied nothing.

How unbelievably gross that trans people get on those forums and try to school everybody to be kind. I'm glad they get downvoted into oblivion. Even people married to soldiers with combat PTSD have a right to their own feelings about the experience and to be afraid of their perfectly understandable rages and wish they were the way they used to be. I find it weird how what trans people really seem to want is for everybody in their lives to just fake the right feelings.

It's easy to feel conflicted when you start down a path of immense self-harm, while also joining a cult that encourages others, including minors, to go down the very same path of self-harm, and label everyone who expresses concern for your and your peers' mental and physical health as "bigots." How could you tell the difference between genuine concern and bigotry when you have already classified genuine concern as bigotry?

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Title: Trans support subreddits for cis people suck

The two Im thinking of are r/mypartneristrans and r/cisparenttranskid. I lurk occasionally because they used to be interesting to me, but I'm just genuinely disgusted lately. I'd love to know if y'all feel similarly.

I want to start with that I understand that these subreddits are not for me, I get that these are support groups for cis people.

But oh. My. God. It seems like everyone who uses these subbreddits absolutely hates their trans "loved ones".

In the former there are dozens of posts of people "mourning" their loved ones, feeling a sense of grief that (checks notes) their partner is taking steps to be happy and fufilled as a person. Concerned about their own sexuality, getting upset that their partner starts a medication without signing some kind of contract first, worried about what it says about them.

I've always been of the opinion that most trans people are who they are from the start and get socialized out of it, so if you're dating a trans woman before she transitions, I think you've been dating a woman the whole time. So it weirds me out that someone could be upset that they're "boyfriend" transitions, cause they were dating a woman anyway. Maybe I'm too trans to understand that.

The latter is much worse. Parents genuinely greiving and upset that they're child doesnt match their imaginations.

I've seen parents talk about how their child transitioning brings them to tears.

I've seen parents irate that they're child wants to go on blockers or hormones, as if social transition somehow makes watching your body transform into something you aren't not an exisistential terror.

The worst is parents who try to comfort others who feel this so called "grief" by saying it's okay to cry that your son is actually your daughter and that is somehow a meaninful loss. A child who's happy with who they are is somehow a loss to them. I saw a mother say something along the lines of "of course you're grieving, you had a SON not a daughter" as if that's not some aggressive transphobia. (Yes they actually capitalized son when talking about a trans girl)

It makes me so upset because these are people seeking out support and trying to love the trans people in their life. But so often their fears and ignorance are completely indistinguishable from bigots. Imagine seeing your parents or partner complaining that who you are makes their life worse on a subreddit where they're trying to support you. It almost makes me feel relieved that I was rejected by my friends and family.

I see trans people on there who routinely call out transphobia and get downvoted to help for saying "hey don't misgender your partner in this post" or "hey withholding medicine because of bad grades is kinda literal torture and has long term consequences".

If these are our allies, it almost feels like we dont need enemies and trans people are in no shortage of enemies.

The only thing that helps is going to r/mypartnerissocis, a circlejerk making fun of the frankly absurd transphobia in the actual subreddits. I actually think the circlejerk is less mean, genuinely. Not to mention that trans people have very valid reasons to be wary of cis people in their life, which is not the case the other way around.

Anyway, that's my rant. Please let me know your thoughts and experiences. I don't wanna hate these places because they are genuine resources for some people, but god damn can they not be outwardly transphobic. Can they read a book or two or just treat us like people?

(Shoutout to my cis wife who went out of her way to read transfeminist literature and treat me with respect. She was also upset and called that the bare minimum)

Wait until he sees Teo on the "cis kid trans parent" subreddit.

I wonder if I'm unknowingly and retroactively a lesbian. Yaaaayyy, that'd be nice, as a biotrans woman, that's another oppressed group to invade and appropriate, in good trans fashion! Now I gotta see if there's some ethnic angle I can exploit.

The r/mypartnerissocis sub is hilariously delusional.