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Posted November 20, 2024 by SilentKnight
Score: 6
Welcome to TransLogic!
This is the Radical Feminist Circle to document the various illogical, incorrect, misogynistic, racist, and otherwise caustic rhetoric spouted from TRAs and MRAs in their own words.
The lies, misinformation, threats of extreme violence, and the dehumanization of women who dare speak up against this misogynistic, racist and conservatively homophobic ideology are legion. TRA and MRA stochastic terrorism has already turned to real world violence against women and children.
Use this Circle to record what they say -In Their Own Words-
Note: this circle is also to showcase the lies, fallacies, and misogyny of men in general, whether or not they are trans-identified. This can include MRAs, TRAs, or just your average Joe.
Rules updated as of 22 Nov 2024.
Posts can be removed by mods for any reason for the health of the community including ones that don’t land or are confusing.
Tip: If you aren't sure where a post should go, check out o/ItsAFetish and o/Radfemmery to decide whether or not those would be better circles to post in.
Rule 1: Appropriate Posts
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This circle is for Screenshots of TRAs/MRAs. The preferred format is a screenshot as the post with an archived link for the screenshotted information in the comments.
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*We no longer accept outside links, only uploaded screenshots. The ability to upload is unlocked when a user's account reaches level 3 on Ovarit.
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*Screenshots should be sized so the text is readable on a phone screen. No screen shots of long articles that are too small to read on a phone.
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*For Twitter, please screenshot the tweet/thread rather than linking directly. Utilize the archive function and imgur.
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*NO direct linking to TikTok, Reddit, YouTube, or misogynistic accounts (i.e. Blaire White or Contrapoints' Youtube channels).
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NO genital pictures, including neovaginas and neophalluses. Mastectomies and breast implants will be taken on a case-by-case basis. NO MEDICAL PICTURES OF MINORS ARE ALLOWED
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NO text posts or copypasta.
Rule 2: The NO List
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NO misogyny, racism, sexism, homophobia, anti-Semitism, ableism, ageism, colorism.
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*NO slurs: No n-words, misogynistic slurs (ex: bitch, slut, terf, cis), t-slurs or their derivatives (ex: trunacy, troon, Timmy, Timothy)
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NO debating. Take debates to other circles. Do NOT debate tenets of various philosophies here. No derailing or sealioning. No DARVO.
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NO posting about minors.
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NO template gripes.
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NO conversion therapy (aka "genital preferences are transphobic") or other right-wing, conservative talking points allowed.
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NO joking about any and all illegal activity that could actually happen
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NO talking about downvotes. For the love of all that is female, STOP talking about downvotes. Mods are sick of it. No griping about how many downvotes your comment or post got, or another person's comment or post got. Those comments will be deleted even if they accompany otherwise good commentary.
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Verified users are always fair game.
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We do NOT protect misogynistic men and their sycophants. Record any and all misogynies.
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I don't believe that separatism is good for humanity.
I also think Soh's argument is based in internalized misogyny and is therefore a weak argument. "Women are mean and catty" is a sexist stereotype. "Femininity is innate to womanhood" is a sexist stereotype. Ms. Soh is using sexist stereotypes to make her points.
Because I believe humans care. We care. We love. We progress. To suggest otherwise suggests the end of humanity. Most people don't like the idea of ending humanity. I believe most people enjoy life, despite the hardships that come with it.
That's why I'm here today, because I care.
How is separatism bad for humanity? It's just the opinion that women should have designated woman-only spaces available to us, that women and girls should have the option of living away from males if we need/prefer it.
This straight woman is all for it.
Even just spending time in online woman-only spaces has strengthened and enlightened me in ways I didn't even know were possible, personally.
I have a different understanding of separatism.
That was what I was going with for my answer. I don't believe this type of separatism is going to help feminists in the long run.
We already have "separatism" going based on your definition: women's bathrooms, women's shelters, women's prisons, girls boarding schools, women's support groups (current trans-issues aside) and women are free to have their own jobs, their own income, their own housing, and live with women, in a majority of countries.
I think you're quoting from the wikipedia article on (feminist) separatism... I mean if you read the whole thing, it's pretty clear that there are many different views on separatism and "women's separation from men" isn't necessarily implied to be universal/permanent. It even mentions an essay by Marilyn Frye where she mentions that all women practice separatism at some point in their lives, and that it only becomes "controversial" when politics come into it.
It's kind of ironic how the trans movement is even attempting to eliminate "benign" forms of female separatism such as women's bathrooms, and even shit like bachelorette parties, baby showers, women's religious clubs, "girls' night out," that kind of thing...
I mean I'm sure there are radfems who think all women should permanently and universally separate from men. Personally? I don't know any radfems who actually believe that, unless we mean in a vague sort of "I hope one day we have the technology to have an all-female society" way. I think everyone pretty much understands "all women should permanently separate from men for good" is a hard sell, to the point of impossibility. Some women are straight, I think we pretty much all understand that they're going to want to interact with men at some point.