all that's left is support for basic rights to employment, housing, etc.

This isn't dropping it. If someone can be fired for wearing blackface to work, why can't someone be fired for wearing womanface? What about the right of women to work in a non hostile work environment?

The whole thing is incredibly misogynistic. I don't consider it over until that is generally acknowledged.

Considering how politically divided this issue is, a long time. They can’t drop trans without admitting that the other side was right. The public stance of the “right-side of history” is that any criticism of trans, any desire for debate is coming from a place of bigotry and hatred. Walking that back is going to be rough.

I actually think it will be pretty quick. I don't think the average American really ever believed this stuff deep down - they may have passively accepted it because they had better things to do than research depraved male sexual fetishes, but I believe that trans was a largely astro-turfed movement. Trump's presidency is the perfect time to let their support fade into the dust and pop back up in 2028 like it never happened.

I don't think they'll ever drop fully drop it and see the problems it causes women and same sex attracted people. I don't think the democrats are going to continue to be the "progressive" party they tout themselves as. As in, they'll call themselves that but more and more people will see through their fauxgressivism.

Im kind of hoping were getting to a turning point where the conservative and liberal parties are both too extreme and reactionary for the average American and we finally start to see new parties forming so we can get rid of the gridlock that is the two party system. We can't go on much longer like this when both the major political parties fail to actually represent the general population. It's only going to get worse the poorer the average person gets.

The trans thing is basically the abortion of the right.

Picking up abortion was a very short-sighted plan. The truth is, most people want to keep abortion legal. They may not say it out loud, but they do. All the research shows this. "Pro-life" people always like to whine about how they "can't publicly say they're pro-life" but in this circumstance, the cancel culture actually goes the other way. Anti-choice people, in truth, can't shut up about how anti-choice they are. The real "silent majority" don't want to ban abortion.

But the Republicans invested so heavily in this issue trying to pick up short term religious votes that they can't drop it now without everyone noticing. Trump has admitted this and it was the first time he had to deal with conservative tantrums. He's right, though. It's a vote killer.

The Democrats could probably have an easier time dropping the trans thing, but not a whole lot easier. This was a fad to make them look shiny, new, and cutting edge. It was such a bad idea, though. Such a bad idea. I don't know how they're going to drop it, but they need to.

Or, like the Republicans, this is just going to be a thorn they keep in their side forever more, because it's too awkward to fix it.

They'll just stop mentioning it, slowly take off pronouns from emails, quietly support bills to allow sex segregation. I think that's already started happening (a little bit), and it'll keep on building.

But who knows, maybe there will be a huge social justice resurgence under Trump- although I don't think so, I think it'll be different this time.

They will spend this year being so outraged about it, and the next two forgetting and paying lipservice to it whenever reminded.

Theyre going to let the Reps do the dirty work of walking it back and next election, if anyone brings it up they will say everyones rights need to be respected and case-by-case basis and similar empty words to soothe the nutters who still believe in gender by then, but do nothing of substance.

Basically the same playbook they use on womens rights

I predict a few phases for Democratic politicians.

a) Hold fast to moral outrage and continue pretending they're "on the right side of history" as long as they feel it's expedient

b) As research and pushback through mounting court cases increases, silence and refocusing on different issues

c) When "transing" reaches the place where it's impossible not to understand it as medical misadventure (historically joining the likes of lobotomies, DES, and "nonaddictive" opioids), dropping the issue and asserting we now know better

Timeline -- who knows? The electorate is ahead of the electeds on this one.

If I had to make bets, I'd say it'll happen after the Democrats suffer a few more devastating & humiliating losses. I'm talking something major like California flipping red (which isn't impossible since a lot of folks in California are FURIOUS at the Democrats for how they handled the recent devastating wildfires in LA). And they might be forced to finally change course if Vance is elected president in 2028

It would also take handmaidens like AOC being termed or voted out

I think it’s going… corporate money is what sustained it and corporate money is being withdrawn

They may need to lose another major election before it sinks in. I voted 3-5 yrs.

We could be in the midst of a major reorganization of political parties at the moment too. Almost like Republicans and Democrats doing some historical flipping of sides. Interesting times ahead, so we’ll see.

It's not fear.

I hate to be a negative Nancy, but the problem is that there is an entire class of people whom it does not concern. They're also the people who can afford to be in favor of mass migration. They're simply not affected by the direct consequences, so they do not give a singular shit.

They may drop it for a hot minute to look cool, but the very second people stop stirring shit when they bring it up, they'll push it again. They're self proclaimed arbiters of social justice.

They'll have to lose at least one or two more elections, and it will have to be super obvious that the T issue is the reason why.

I think it will be dropped pretty soon, at least as something they publicly promote. They may still try to get a few riders passed quietly, but it’s so obvious that the voice of the people has been heard that they’ll just start acting like they never pushed the trans agenda at all. Pure gaslighting to try to regain votes.

No politician wants a they/them moment on camera. Look what that one clip did to Harris's campaign. I expect a lot more platitudes and a lot more changing of the subject.

I voted 3-5 years, though I would have chosen 5-6 years if that had been an option. I think they'll suffer more political losses which will cause infighting and more people going silent on the issue. I think it will get dropped when climate catastrophes overwhelm the USA and other nations around the world to the point where luxury oppressions and other niche issues get swept aside by much bigger problems.

When they stop getting kickbacks from the likes of HRC and so on. Some lawsuits have to be won for detransitioners. You have to mess with these smug elitists' money before they change anything. Right now they're willing to die on the trans hill.

Honestly, I think the Democratic party will have to be an almost completely new group of people from who we have now before they drop it. The ones in power currently don't show any signs that they'll ever let this go.

The only solution is waiting until they've all retired or been foisted out by voters. Then hopefully the new group who were never involved in trying to convince everyone that this is the literal most important civil rights issue of the millennium can quietly slink away from it and eventually discard it altogether.

I think it depends on how badly they actually want to get into office, whether they want to inherit the shitstorm that's drifting ever closer to the fan. I think when they want to get back in, suddenly a "maverick" in the Democrats with arise and they'll be "forced" to change the course to allign with the will of the people.

But I think it all hinges on how dangerously bad things get globally. As it is, I suspect that the current arrangement might be working out well for Republicans and Democrats.

They will change if they keep losing. What good would it do to hang on to an ideology losing them votes? If they are dumb enough to keep it going they deserve what they get.

They are gonna double... triple... quadruple... down now

I think they will have to see election losses for those supporting gender ideology. & those politicians losing in primaries as well. It will have to be losing in primaries so that more moderate Dems become the Party leaders. Due to this reason as well as general wokeness. And it may take 2 election cycles.

And a lot depends on what happens under Trump. If prices rise due to tariffs, if things get too authoritarian, if the immigration-border issue doesn't get under control, people could turn back even to woke Democrats. And especially if the GOP goes after Social Security or Medicare.

Some of the "squad" lost due to anti-woke voters. Sherrod Brown lost, & one of the ads against him involved trans & school sports. And he had been in office a long time. And his GOP opponent insulted women with his statements on abortion. But I think it was anti-Democrat sentiment & seeing him as going along with extremist woke stuff. Especially considering that Ohio has voted in abortion rights by referendum. So it's not all conservatives that voted against him.

On the other hand, McBride got elected & the Dem party rewarded him.

But if TIMs or TIFs do whatever jobs they have competently, people will accept or support them in those positions. Whether that will normalize treating them as the opposite sex or there will be a line drawn-such as McBride retreating on using women's restrooms due to the GOP based rule, it will need constant vigilance to prevent basic rights from meaning TWAW.

I voted for 3-5 years.

Five years ago, I would have chosen the same option. I won't be surprised if the Democrats let me down again. But they're on the losing side, and I do think it's inevitable that they'll have to move on and forget they ever supported it eventually.

I voted 6-10 years, and that's being optimistic.

Tbh I think we will see it slowly fall out of mainstream support over the next 4 years.

Hope they drop it asap.

They're already dropping it from what I perceive. Individual senators are now speaking openly against it. It's clearly a vote-loser.

So curious for this result