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MaryDyerMarch 16, 2025

The more I read TIM posts the more convinced I am that they legitimately believe women with PCOS typically look like males.

Maybe a teeny minority do, but I have PCOS, I’ve met many women with PCOS, and never have I once mistaken one for a man, or been mistaken for a man.

I’m 5’1”, have a very high voice, wide hips, have extra fuzz on my upper lip but never anything more, not even a single sprout on my chin, my hands and feet are tiny, my genitals are unambiguously female including my clitoris, which is quite small. I do have wider than normal shoulders for a female, but certainly not male wide, and my upper body strength is practically zero. Even at my most muscular I’ve only been able to do two push ups max. I have normal amounts and darkness of body hair for a brunette female with southern Italian ancestry. Even in my massive bulky men’s winter jacket, baggy sweats, wool cap, makeup-free face, and messy hair I get exclusively “ma’am”ed by panhandlers.

To the lurkers: WOMEN WITH PCOS ARE NOT MEN.

nomenarewomenMarch 16, 2025

The more I read TIM posts the more convinced I am that they legitimately believe women with PCOS typically look like males.

Exactly this.

And also, lots of women with PCOS don't have excessive hair growth — not that these TIMs know that. I have lots of cysts on my ovaries and extremely irregular and lengthy periods, but I don't have facial hair bar a very normal bit of fuzz on my top lip. No one is ever going to mistake me for anything but female, and I have never met a woman even with facial hair who didn't look obviously female.

XYWithProstateMarch 19, 2025(Edited March 19, 2025)

To hear these goofballs tell it, the extra testosterone from PCOS makes women the bearded ladies in Ringling PLUS those funny-mustached strongmen. It doesn't jibe with their claim that lowering their testosterone to a level that still dwarves your max instantly turns their bodies to porcelain. I've dated a girl with PCOS and another platonic friend has it as well. All I noticed was a few small chin hairs she'd shave off here and there; only knew my other friend had it b/c she mentioned it when talking with girl I dated.

The idea she could molly-whop me by building up some PCOS power source like Bruce Banner off a gamma ray burst is hilarious. These people are truly so disconnected from everything and don't care who they drag down in this process. These are the folks who think "butch" lesbians or traditionally "masculine" women were virtually indistinguishable from men because they wore pants or had a short haircut or something. I am confident that women who were never questioned about bathrooms or pronouns before have only had this happen now b/c of these loons.

I hate how I can never tell if these people are bots, teenagers, bad actors, or genuine, but severely autistic folks. I think a lot of the insanity makes more "sense" when you imagine the intent is to upend everything and dissolve every category and structure so nothing is ordered. Upside down world is getting tiring.

nomenarewomenMarch 16, 2025

I told her I get it a lot and have PCOS

STOP LYING GODDAMMIT!! You're just an ugly man. GET. OVER. IT.

p.s. I use 'ugly' in the truest sense of the word, i.e. ugly in character.

atomic_brunette👁️👄👁️March 16, 2025

He outright says

I feel bad about lying because I know real people suffer from it

"Real people" is such a strange turn of phrase here. "Real people" as opposed to what? The imaginary ones in his head? Or did what's left of his conscience want him to say "real women" and he corrected that to "real people"?

He should feel bad.

CattitudeMarch 18, 2025

Or a moment of self-revelation that he's opted out of being a person? 😏

shewolfoffranceMarch 16, 2025

I've noticed that a lot of TiMs wear masks to further disguise their sex.

Even if this one works in a medical field, it would still be weird to wear a mask all the time at work. It's 2025. People are going to notice the big, hulking "lady" who doesn't want to show "her" face.

OnlyHumanMarch 16, 2025

Still plenty of people who are completely unexposed to TIPs and take encounters like this in good faith

shewolfoffranceMarch 16, 2025

It's kind of become part of the TiM aesthetic though, like chokers and pleated schoolgirl miniskirts. Note the TiPs standing behind Nicole Georgas.

I could believe an older woman was genuinely confused (or that the whole thing is made up).

SarahWilliams_13March 16, 2025

It’s just a game to them isn’t it?

OnlyHumanMarch 16, 2025(Edited March 16, 2025)

Just another reminder that these fuckheads are perfectly willing to spread misinformation about conditions that can seriously impact the lives of people and are already poorly understood by the populace just because it benefits them

ReAlIsTiC eXpLanAtIoN my ass, it's a lie about PCOS (as the woman now probably believes that they're all going to look and sound like a male pretending to be a female) and it's a lie about himself so it's entirely fake on both counts

Shot_DunyunMarch 16, 2025

Every day I learn that I don't hate TIMs enough. And holy fuckin' shit do I hate them.

Every. Fuckin'. Day.

istaraMarch 16, 2025

Why is it "cute and kinda funny" and "weird"? The person posting is biologically male.

OnlyHumanMarch 16, 2025(Edited March 16, 2025)

Woman who is probably unfamiliar with the existence of TIPs as well as PCOS is lied to by a TIM

quiggyMarch 16, 2025

I either have PCOS or something that outwardly very much resembles it. (Haven't gotten a proper test). I have a neckbeard which I shave daily. If I let it grow, it gets very dark and noticeable, though I've never let it grow out enough to truly know what it would be like when left to its own devices. I don't have to shave it as much, but my moustache also grows pretty wild if I forget about it for a bit.

Even if I let it grow out for years and it somehow became a big furry thicket on my chin and neck and a majestic 'stache, no one will ever think I am male. Someone might assume I am some sort of weird non-brainery TIF on T, maybe, and I might get asked my pronouns a lot because of it, but no one is ever going to think my voluptuous 5'4 self with an undeniably female voice (not a voice that is technically in the female pitch range but sounds all weird and breathy like it's being held artificially suspended high above its natural range in a disguised falsetto), large breasts, big hips, small feet and hands, delicate features, no Adam's apple--need I go on?--is actually male, or AMAB or whatever they want to call it.

Now, not every woman with PCOS (or something PCOS-adjacent) is as obviously visibly female in pretty much every other way as I am. I'm sure there are plenty of women with hormonal imbalances that could be mistaken for men, especially by men, who suck at discerning the difference if there is any androgyny present at all (sometimes I could swear it's willful with them). But there is pretty much always still some kind of giveaway that they are women. If even the TIFs can't quite hide it...well.

But this guy. There is no way the full-face 5 o' clock(able) shadow on his masculine features looks anything like PCOS or like any kind of woman. Add in the fact that he's probably quite tall and his voice no doubt sounds fishy and there is no reasonable doubt here. Either he pulled one over on someone naive (congrats I guess?) or yet another man can't tell when a woman is just pretending not to have clocked him so that she doesn't get punished for it.

KevlarMagnolia [OP]March 16, 2025

Many years ago, when I was a teenager, in a pizza place in a small town in far Northern California, I saw a bearded lady. And I do mean “bearded”—this was an actual beard, not a “my Italian grandma has a little mustache” situation. She was in the next room and I didn’t want to stare, so it was just a few glances. But it was such an unusual sight that it stuck with me.

Now, when TIPs try to tell us that you can’t tell someone’s sex just by looking at them clothed, I think about that experience. I remember how it only took a millisecond for my not-yet-fully-mature brain to take a brand-new sight, process it, and correctly conclude that I was seeing a woman (expected) with a beard (unexpected).

quiggyMarch 17, 2025

I often think of Lila from Carnivale. She has a wispy little PCOS beard, and is the "bearded lady" freak of the carnival troupe. I wonder if I would have been a circus freak back in the day just for having naturally growing facial hair. It really opened my eyes, seeing that.

inTERFerenceMarch 17, 2025

The few times I’ve come across women with a lot of facial hair-including one who had a full beard-it’s REALLY DAMN OBVIOUS that they’re women. That’s why, in the case of that bearded woman, everyone would stare at her, completely confused-because she is unambiguously female.

To the TIM lurkers-you think if you shave or laser off your hair you’ll be able to deceive people, but you will not. There are so, so many other tells 🤦‍♀️

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