And everyone else agrees. No man NAMALT’s his daughter, or wife, or any other woman he has enough invested in to care about. The same applies to non feminist women. What they expect me to say, they don’t say to their daughters. They warn their daughters that men aren’t always gentlemen, and that gentlemen don’t always stay that way. They buy their daughters pepper spray, and personal alarms, and whistles, and guns. They restrict what they are allowed to wear at school and while socializing. They teach them all kinds of “safety tips” like varying their routes home and to not get distracted by their own thoughts when walking.
When a man rapes a woman, people say of the woman “what did she expect?” She expected for him to “not be like that.” If a man is “like that” the woman should have figured it out before he struck, but somehow without also being paranoid and misandrist.
But as soon as women imbue “what everyone knows” about men with political meaning, asking if the people no one trusts around their daughters / wives should have so much power over them, it becomes a problem.
According to experience growing up in a conservative Asian country, men absolutely do NAMALT their daughters. They are willing to believe their daughters and assume the worst of other men but pin the blame back on women who didn’t take enough precautions to avoid abuse while defending the abusers. My dad is like this. I have a creepy uncle who isn’t even his biological relative and he believes what I tell him about the man’s pedophilic tendencies but still forces me to keep the peace in extended family gatherings.
Excellent comment! I know quite a few blokes who are exactly like that! They always tell the women they care about like their family members to be careful around males but at the same time they also call Feminists that tell women the same thing that they are being " misandric " !
I get the impression that looots of blokes know how nasty male nature tends to be as a whole but at the same time this realization makes them uncomfortable so they don't like when attention is called to it... It would be nice if there was a term to call out this kind of behavior from them...
It’s called cognitive dissonance and everyone is swimming in it when it comes to male violence.
Men are so sexually aggressive / violent and antisocial, with such regularity, that women and girls’ lives must be structured around avoiding encountering it. Yet we are also to believe that men are who women and girls are safest with and that men’s authority is benevolent and protective of women. Men are fundamentally incapable of controlling their sexual impulses but they are still to be regarded as moral authorities by women, who must control ourselves on pain of death.
The cognitive dissonance is resolved by blaming women for men’s violence / depravity and blaming women for talking about it. That way everyone is absolved of responsibility for doing anything.
It would be nice if there was a term to call out this kind of behavior from them...
I’m pretty sure cognitive dissonance fits the bill but we do need a word that conveys this specific type of cognitive dissonance.
Exactly...they also view women saying no to them as "hate" so yeah, I guess I do hate men!
Interesting how MRAs are paying attention to how women react to TIMs. Almost like they are coming at it from the same perspective. Almost like they are the fucking same-ass thing. the TRA/MRA/Incel alliance is real ASF.
Pretty much. Not hate, but familiar enough with men to know that they are the ones who commit most violence and sexual violence, that they watch porn and hire prostitutes, seeing women as objects to be used, that they fetishize womanhood, that so many men are perverted and disgusting that we just don't believe they have good intentions.