Keep fucking fighting. My misandry ebbs and flows in intensity, but overall, I know men don't have our interests. It hurts more that so many women will throw other women under the proverbial bus. All we can do is keep on keeping on.

Edit: thanks to that

For women who have been radical feminists longer than me, does the anger or distrust ever go lessen?

I learned at at an early age that females had little power and control over their lives. I watched my brothers have a carefree life and I was literally the housekeeper. I did not understand it, I only knew that I resented them bitterly (and my parents for encouraging and allowing it).

In society and culture, men have power in the hierarchy and women do not. Here is my truth and I don’t say the quiet part out loud with most people due to the shit-storm of consequences that would rain on my head: I go through my life not only resenting men for said power, but quietly hating them.

TIMS incense me to the point that the rage that I feel is difficult to keep a lid on it at times. I choke it down because, basically, people would think that I am nuts. Also, I don’t want to reinforce the stereotype that all lesbians hate men. I don’t hate them because I am a lesbian, I hate them for their refusal to relinquish power, their ongoing and always, abuse and mistreatment of women and girls.

I have to laugh at the idea of misandry. When women hate men, they try to stay away from them. When men hate women, they harass, stalk, and murder women. So fuck that. I understand that constant feeling of quiet anger, but it's worth it to know the score. I don't feel like it affects how I live my life, but I'm not disappointed when men I know turn out to be shit. I accept it and move on. For the most part I can still enjoy the company of lots of men, but I don't expect empathy or respect from them.

I also started with anger: pure white anger. Am still pissed most of the time. But then I made a little mental leap a few years ago. See, I've always been religious. Christian religious. Bot catholic or Bible-thumping religious, but part of a group with a comfortable unquestioning patriarchy. So, of course, God is male. And I resented that big time. So I just went "fuck this shit" and started referring to God as she - the only valid pronoun game out there. And you know what, since then I've suddenly started seeing God in my sister's love for her daughter, my mother's love for her pets, my friend's selfless sharing of herself with troubled teens. And, for the first time, I saw God in me. And, as far as gospel writings go, ovarit it often closer to the truth than all of the holy texts.

Also, I started insisting men treat me as equals or superiors, no exceptions. If a man refuses to obey, I will actively let him know he is boring as shit. It works wonders. Probably also going to get I to big trouble one day. Up to then, managing a yawn that can produce tears really does get the message across!

And then I realized I'm willing or give mans a chance. Not men, but mans - the same way you have hair and hairs. Hairs are a few single strand. Those mans I'll trust as far as I can keep an eye on them. And now I actively pursue female friendships and cats. I have a collection of cats.

Men have never been for women's rights. Combine that with the modern phenomenon of dehumanizing porn at any man's fingertips at anytime, and it's easy to see why. How can you feel respect for a female human if you see her and imagine her at her lowest, least dignified moments of her life?

I think it's safest for women in general to keep their distance from men. But the woke surveillance and their constant need for validation makes that difficult. I really don't know what to say.

Misandry doesn’t exist because it’s logical foe women to hate men due to their oppression of us.

How I handle anything in relation to men is living by this quote from Carrie Fisher, "First of all, I don't think of men as people."

It doesn't bother me much anymore. I've always had to fight for respect -- mostly physically with males in my school years. It has taught me how men think and work, though. It's helpful when it comes to arguing my points on things.

And you're right; it is self preservation. There's a reason women outlive men.

I describe myself as a life long radical feminist even though I’ve just found it the past year. I’m 25 now for perspective but I’ve always been painfully aware of how women are treated in society. I stopped wearing makeup and using gendered insults like bitch, cunt, etc when I was in high school. I was always extremely disgusted at female objectification although I couldn’t pin point why. I stopped watching TV and shows that showcased this, which was the majority of the mainstream. Stopped listing to the sexualized songs. I even introduced myself as a misandrist to my class when I was in 9th grade. I was so repulsed by men I thought I was asexual. I’m not sure how or why but being painfully aware of how women are treated in society for so long broke me, I think. I was tired of being the only one around me who was aware of these things and having these issues. I thought something was wrong with me. Slowly I started to drop my guard and wear makeup, sleep around, participate in things that were objectifying. I let men take advantage of me. I think I had an illusion of happiness because I was fitting in but in reality I was miserable. Every man I let into my life during this period was a piece of shit. I fucking went through it. I came to my senses a couple years later and shortly after I found radical feminism. Immediately I was like fuck yes, this is what I’ve never been able to put into words. Anyway I still hate men and tolerate them when I have to. It’s very hard to deal with knowing that the men in my life don’t see me as being a full human with bodily autonomy. But I focus on me and do things that I love and want to do. I cultivate my relationships with women. To me the anger and distrust hasn’t lessened, if anything it’s only been solidified though the years. Sometimes it can threaten to crush you. But learning how to deal with it gets better and way easier.

Honestly, men just aren't a big part of my world. I read books by women 98% of the time. I listen to female artists. I seek out female-centered entertainment. I have deep and meaningful female friendships, and I am friendly with a number of men, but none except my partner am I close to.

I think it is very reasonable to expect that men will not take you or your ideas, opinions, feelings or pain seriously, and proceed from there. For me, my mistrust only has grown, but so has my acceptance of what the situation is. They generally can't be completely avoided, but they don't have to have much of your time or energy.

I’ve had no close relationships with men, merely friendly acquaintance, mostly in the workplace. I don’t think about what they think, or care, or have any expectations. It’s never been a topic of conversation and the men I see around now aren’t ones I even want to talk to.

To me I think the most gutting part was getting talked down to about womanhood, and being told that I should sit down and listen to the TIMs. And realizing that neither the TIMs in question, even the so called good ones, nor the "feminist" men telling me this had ever bothered listening to us. Ever. Those who have don't insist we should listen to the TIMs.

And that was when I realized how many men know nothing about what it means to be a woman and still see us as a supporting cast in their play. And how many of them genuinely seem to expect us to dismiss everything that matters to us in order to ease the suffering of men who care nothing about what we experience either. TIMs only really care about being seen as women by men. They expect us to convince the men. We're only tools to them.

But in truth though how I mainly handled it is that my ex, my (male) best friend and my boyfriend are all fairly GC. I do believe that a great many men did want equality and what we are seeing now really is mostly the result of capitalist culture pushing back against our gains. I don't know how old you are, but it seems like the misogyny has really increased a lot with the millennial generation, which not so coincidentally is the generation of internet porn and social media.

I believe those have done a very good job at undoing a lot of the progress we had made in the seventies through to the mid nineties. If we can somewhat regain control of our children's education, I'm not so scared, I see children around me and they're innocent, I know they can be taught to be kind and fair. But we absolutely need to stop the bullshit trans train, otherwise we're fucked.

I think it’s healthy to perceive misogyny for what it is. Because if we’re afraid to direct anger at sexists, we let their mistreatment of us continue.

There’s what you feel as a general theory (men are responsible for most of the world’s ills) and the exceptions you see in your life (if you’re lucky). The two people in my life I currently regard most highly happen to be men. They are an example of what’s possible if men choose to be decent humans. In my life some of the people who have treated me the worst have been women. I still believe in women’s liberation but sometimes I really do need to remind myself of that quote (I think it’s Andrea Dworkin) that says feminists want liberation for even women they don’t like.

I'm still blown away by the fact that most if not all males I know in my age group watch porn, don't see a problem with it and want to keep watching it to jerk off. It's difficult to reconcile that with any idea that they migth see me as an equal person.